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esteban68

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I've picked up two British suits recently both locally made in Sheffield both in 1970, now I know they are not golden era but they are interesting non the less and can show what to look out for;
first is a Barney Goodman, his suits were known for their strong shoulders, this on is in a beautiful striped worsted cloth...sadly trousers are too small at a roughly 34" waist though the jacket is a perfect 42",
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lapels are narrow and not in the usual 70's style, trousers are straight with no hint of a flare, twin rear vents and heavily sloping pockets are obvious, build quality is A1 obviously built as a work suit as all pocket edges are heavily reinforced.

I'll post the other tomorrow if time allows.
 

Eddie Derbyshire

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Really nice esteban68 - a suit to wear anytime, anywhere. Nice to see the ticket pocket. I think it always adds a bit of curiosity to a suit. It's the kind of classic stuff I like too and very often wear.
 

esteban68

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the cloth is wonderful Eddie, here's a front and back view of trouser/waistband;
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I only wish it fit, the trousers have been taken in at some point and then let out again to their maximum of around 34-35".

Here's the other suit, it's in what appears to be a 'Fresco' type fabric, hopefully I may be able to obtain some to make up a waistcoat as I suspecxt it was woven in Huddersfield and the mill is still working I am told!
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It's fairly high waisted ie what yuou'd expect for it's age, no rear pocket, button fly, front pleats and a fob pockets..it fits great just needing sleeves and trousers up a touch and the very slight flare ( bootcut in todays terminology) bringing in.
 

esteban68

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I've had this a while but can now get into it ok, it's an all wool worsted from the early 1970's, yes it needs a few things doing like shortening sleeves and legs, removing the very slight flare or letting out ther trouser all the way up, rear vents shutting as I hate twin rear vents as it makes my backside look even bigger and buttons changing.... it didn't cost much a fiver if I remember correctly and it's as new.
Colour is a taupe/greyish pink base colour with blue and reddish over checks....apologies for crap picture, thoughts?
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Patrick Hall

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I think the jacket could use some waist suppression. The lapels could stand some work. The seat of the trousers seems really low, compared to the length of the jacket. I don't know, there is some '70's-does-20's/30's stuff that's passable. But frankly, I'm not sure any amount of alteration will be able to get the disco funk out of that suit. Sorry Esteban.
 

Eddie Derbyshire

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Hello folks!

This is my late 1950s 3-piece John Collier suit, with Milium lining. At least, I think it's 1950s - the style would suggest so, with 11" bottoms on the trousers, high-rise and a risen-up rear (I assume at one point with a split-seam waistband, but it has been adjusted before I got it, and that has been lost) but the lapels on the jacket are a bit narrower and the button-stance is fairly low. I reckon it's an odd colour for the type of suit, but I like it a lot all the same. Wore it with a William Hunt shirt, Tootal 'Black Quality' tie, Dunn & Co felt hat, and my Grandad's brogues that he gave to me a while ago.




Thanks for looking!
 

Two Types

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The 'John Collier' name was first used, I believe, in 1958. So late fifties early sixties would be my guess - which is exactly the period I always associate with Milium lining.
 

esteban68

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It's a good look Eddie....I recently saw a 1920's / 1930's British three piece absolute convinced it was of that era everything was right only to find a date label for the early 1960's!!!! I may buy it yet but it's striped which is not really my thing and it has a couple of tiny moth nips...if it were early I'd be all over it....Hmm!
 

Rabbit

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Here's a Milium ad from Sep 1952, and another from Sep 1963. What exactly was this metal coating, does anyone know? And what's the base fabric?

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Found a couple more, from Mar and Nov 1951, with some info on the construction. Not sure if there were several varieties?

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Eddie Derbyshire

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TT - I wonder if the 'lightweight' could refer to them being less bulky, because I agree - that suit is damned heavy!

Esteban68 - that suit sounds good. Go for it!

Rabbit - I don't know much about Milium at all. It isn't obvious what it is from looking at the exterior. Esteban68 perhaps you could photograph that lining inside your overcoat.
 

Rabbit

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Well, I was just curious because I had never even heard of Milium, or any other liner with a metal coating. Going by the ads it seems that there were several different constructions - a Milium plus foam insulated lining is mentioned in additon to regular Milium, and quilted liners are mentioned (the suits don't have a quilted liner, do they?). The base material mentioned has a satin weave (I never tire to point out that satin is a weave, not a material :p), but there's no specification of the fabric itself.
 

Eddie Derbyshire

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I didn't know that about satin! Interesting. Yes Milium is relatively common in winter suits and overcoats really. For me the label just adds a bit of colour to the inside of your suit as far as I'm concerned. There is no obvious structure underneath the lining as I say (ie it isn't like a chicken wire mesh under there ;p) so I assume it must be pretty fine.
 

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