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Feraud

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I know =). However, I don't want to show my shirt sleeves anymore because of the armpit stains on my dress shirt, I can't afford OxyClean. I also want to dress "a bit" more modestly.
If your shirts are stained that badly it is probably time for new ones. Affordable dress shirts are out there. Just about every company offers periodic deep discount sales.
 

Cobden

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It happens with all of us, we do have some piece of clothing which we cannot think of losing.

I admit to have once gotten a rather vibrant curry stain on my dinner shirt, which led to me to me wearing a cummerbund to cover it (I wear a DB DJ). Despite the shirt being replaced, the habit of combining the two traditionally incompatable garments is something I have had some difficulty in kicking...
 

MisterCairo

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When did dress shirts stop being classified as undergarments? Anyone else consider it inappropriate to show your shirt sleeves in public? For example: always wearing your jacket/sweater.

I can see how most people today would consider your question to be strange, some would say insane, but knowing a little about the history of male fashion in the west, I know exactly what you mean.

Shirts in the Victorian era were strictly undergarments for most, or work wear at best. It's why period-themed films and tv shows have men falling out of bed "undressed" wearing shirts most of us today would associate with Lord Byron. If the jacket was off, the waistcoat was on!

As for the time period when the wearing of a shirt out of doors or indoors in the presence of company, without at least a waistcoat on top, became common place (dare I say, "acceptable") I'd have to say it started slowly by the 30s, advancing quickly into the 40s, certainly by the 50s.

It's similar to the tee shirt - today, it's common place, variety of materials and colours. Until a certain actor in a certain film it was underwear, pure and simple.
 

MisterCairo

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I have one of these, my only shirt =).

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/on/de...=WHIT&dwvar_613Q_Size=14H_32&dfltsize=1&cgid=

Only the armpits are slightly ruined with yellow stains. The shirt is fine everywhere else. As long as I wear a jacket or sweater, no one will notice =P.

The main reason I always wear an undershirt (tee style, not string vest style) under my dress shirts, shirts of any value, and use the vile aluminum-filled anti-persperant rather than "deodourant") regardless of the heat. To protect my shirts.

For dressier short sleeved shirts I wear undershirts as well for the same reason, and using standard vice v-neck style I also like a bit showing through the open collar.

I also always use a stain remover on the underarm of the shirt prior to laundering, regardless of actual persperation levels, to keep them clean looking. In my home climate (Perth County, Ontario) humidity is a killer in the summer (don't need to tell you!), and it's amazing how quickly a dress shirt, any shirt really, can become sweat stained.
 

APP Adrian

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Toronto
I can see how most people today would consider your question to be strange, some would say insane, but knowing a little about the history of male fashion in the west, I know exactly what you mean.

Shirts in the Victorian era were strictly undergarments for most, or work wear at best. It's why period-themed films and tv shows have men falling out of bed "undressed" wearing shirts most of us today would associate with Lord Byron. If the jacket was off, the waistcoat was on!

As for the time period when the wearing of a shirt out of doors or indoors in the presence of company, without at least a waistcoat on top, became common place (dare I say, "acceptable") I'd have to say it started slowly by the 30s, advancing quickly into the 40s, certainly by the 50s.

It's similar to the tee shirt - today, it's common place, variety of materials and colours. Until a certain actor in a certain film it was underwear, pure and simple.

This =).

Also, do you mind explaining who and how Lord Byron has to do with this subject?

It's also less work cleaning my shirts since only the cuffs and collar will ever get dirty, especially during the summer. When I wash my shirts, I rub some detergent into the cuffs and collar and let them sit in a tub of cold water for 10 minutes. I then precede to rinse the shirt. How do you clean your shirts?
 

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