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Schott's Alternative to the Aero Highwayman

OneEyeMan

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This jacket looks like a decent alt to the Highwayman.
https://www.schottnyc.com/products/oiled-nubuck-leather-biker-jacket.htm?catID=8
I've read some conflicting things about Schott jackets in the past but I can't get over the look of this one. I've seen another Schott at a local store and it looked great.
Just wondering if anybody owns one of these or has seen/tried on this jacket in person.
Your comments please.
Thank you.
 
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Holy crap, that is nice! I haven't seen that one before. Looks seriously well fitted and that back is perfection! I only wish it wasn't in nubuck but if it's anything like in the photo, I wouldn't mind it a bit.

Like I've said many times before, there's nothing to worry about related to the quality of Schott jackets. I've had a number of their jackets over the years, some old and some new and I haven't had any problems with them. So I'm sure this is a tremendously good jacket.
 

willyto

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I'm sure Schott jackets are ncie but I just don't like the designs. In this one for example the zippers, cuffs and lateral cinchs seem off to me.
 

kronos77

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I love Schott but will probably never buy another one. A quote from the review of this jacket..."it's remarkably trim and the size small is perfectly fitted to my 5'10" 160-lb frame.". A size small? Perfectly fitted to his frame? Used to be he would fit a medium. Schott just doesn't make things in my size it seems.

Love the jacket though.
 

Grayland

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I like the look of that Schott much more than the Aero Highwayman. Fit could be tricky as it seems people often have a hard time getting a good fit with Schott, but if you nailed the fit you'd have a great looking jacket.
 

feltfan

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Honestly I don't get it. For that money you can get the custom fit, custom design jacket of your dreams, made from
just about any hide in the store at Johnson Leathers. I don't mean to be a shill for those guys, but when I see the price
tags on the other guys I have to scratch my head.

That said, WRT fit, Schott is stocked in a lot of stores. I think they still have a store in midtown in Manhattan. I was amused
to note that a couple of their jackets (and McCoy A2s) are now stocked at a nearby Oakland, CA store Standard & Strange.
I can't say I saw the appeal, but one can at least try them on.
 

kronos77

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Honestly I don't get it. For that money you can get the custom fit, custom design jacket of your dreams, made from
just about any hide in the store at Johnson Leathers. I don't mean to be a shill for those guys, but when I see the price
tags on the other guys I have to scratch my head.

That said, WRT fit, Schott is stocked in a lot of stores. I think they still have a store in midtown in Manhattan. I was amused
to note that a couple of their jackets (and McCoy A2s) are now stocked at a nearby Oakland, CA store Standard & Strange.
I can't say I saw the appeal, but one can at least try them on.

Johnson Leathers can give you a great fit but can they give you a great leather? That is the downside I have found to dealing with them is that they don't have the best choice of leather.
 

Mark

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Much prefer the look of my Aero HWM and Nubuck wears funny. Why do they call it a bike jacket? A Perfecto or Café racer is a bike jacket, this is a street/casual jacket.
 

AeroFan_07

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With regard to this Schott, it's an interesting jacket by it's simple, straightforward appearance. Nicely cut and appears to have some decent quality. $900? Seems a bit high given the options or customization for it.

I really like the style 585 however seems it is no longer offered?
 

Edward

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Much prefer the look of my Aero HWM and Nubuck wears funny. Why do they call it a bike jacket? A Perfecto or Café racer is a bike jacket, this is a street/casual jacket.

It's very similar to a popular style of bike jacket in the UK back in the late 50s / 60s, with examples made by Lewis, Goldtop, Mascot, Highwayman.... The standard Aero Highwayman is a boxier jacket than this; Ken based it on a British jacket made by Rivett's of Leytonstone and sold under the old Highwayman brand, but cut it looser to mimic some of the US jackets of the 50s.

This Schott looks quite nice, though I'd probably prefer a halfbelt style for myself. Still, variety in the market is always good. ☺
 

Mark

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It's very similar to a popular style of bike jacket in the UK back in the late 50s / 60s, with examples made by Lewis, Goldtop, Mascot, Highwayman.... The standard Aero Highwayman is a boxier jacket than this; Ken based it on a British jacket made by Rivett's of Leytonstone and sold under the old Highwayman brand, but cut it looser to mimic some of the US jackets of the 50s.

This Schott looks quite nice, though I'd probably prefer a halfbelt style for myself. Still, variety in the market is always good. ☺
Thanks Edward, I forgot the Highwayman is based on the biker/rocker jacket of the 50's/60's. And yes variety is a good thing even if it's not your thing.
 
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...with this Schott being even a bit more motorcycle versatile jacket than LL, Rivets, Mascot, etc. due to the bi-swing back. However, I truly do hope it has hidden storm cuffs otherwise its functionality on a bike may be seriously compromised. Nubuck also isn't exactly desirable on an MC jacket. Not as easy to clean the dust and splattered bugs off it.
 

Corsair42

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I wouldnt go anywhere near a motorcycle wearing nubuck, I do however use a Lewis Leathers monza as my everyday riding jacket, the cowhide is way thicker than the jackets sold in most motorcycle stores these days. Waxed cottons, cordura and lambskin seem to have replaced decent hide in the off the shelf jackets but the slack is taken up by improved armour. From an abrasion resistance perspective I would only trust heavyweight cow or horsehide, kangaroo is the best protection but aesthetically looks like lambskin so not a fan. I don't notice the lack of a swing back on my Lewis jackets, once broken in, an extra 0.5 of an inch at the shoulders and sleeves vs a normal casual jacket covers the riding position and isn't noticeable in terms of tailoring. For the price of that Schott you could have something from aero with your own choice of tartan that you genuinely could use for riding and wouldn't have to compromise on personal sizing
 

lina

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With regard to this Schott, it's an interesting jacket by it's simple, straightforward appearance. Nicely cut and appears to have some decent quality. $900? Seems a bit high given the options or customization for it.

I really like the style 585 however seems it is no longer offered?

I think the 585 is still available, but the brown leather that looked so nice on the old ones looks different in the newer ones.
 
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^ Very well said. Lewis jackets are tailored like a proper MC jackets, forward facing sleeves with a little more room in the back. With bi-swing back, that Schott might perform but nubuck is a big no - no on a bike. Well, maybe it's that high quality one, that's barely sanded at all but still, I'd much rather have that heavy plasticy finish on my MC jacket than any kind of nubuck.
 

Edward

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I wouldnt go anywhere near a motorcycle wearing nubuck, I do however use a Lewis Leathers monza as my everyday riding jacket, the cowhide is way thicker than the jackets sold in most motorcycle stores these days. Waxed cottons, cordura and lambskin seem to have replaced decent hide in the off the shelf jackets but the slack is taken up by improved armour. From an abrasion resistance perspective I would only trust heavyweight cow or horsehide, kangaroo is the best protection but aesthetically looks like lambskin so not a fan. I don't notice the lack of a swing back on my Lewis jackets, once broken in, an extra 0.5 of an inch at the shoulders and sleeves vs a normal casual jacket covers the riding position and isn't noticeable in terms of tailoring. For the price of that Schott you could have something from aero with your own choice of tartan that you genuinely could use for riding and wouldn't have to compromise on personal sizing


Have Lewis ever built a jacket with the pockets to accomodate CE armour? Seem to be very few classically styled leather jackets on the market doing that.
 
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Have Lewis ever built a jacket with the pockets to accomodate CE armour? Seem to be very few classically styled leather jackets on the market doing that.

Nope, not as far as I know. Lewis does quilted pads on elbows and shoulders but I heard they've stopped using foam underneath the pads and are now just sewing them on as a detail.

Vanson, Fox Creek, Hillside USA are some of the makers of classically styled gear that make armour pockets. Maybe Bates. Along with Vanson, they're making actual motorcycle racing suits.
 

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