RosieODonnell vs PopularMechanics

[MrBern]

Recently Rosie Odonnell went on a tirade on talk show TheView about 9/11.
She was ranting about the 9/11 conspiracy theory of building 7 being taken down by explosives. Said it was impossible for fire to melt steel & called for Harvard or Yale experts to let the America know what really happened. Then she dissed Yale because Bush went there...

Fortunately, PopularMechanics has addressed her rant!
http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/911myths/4213805.html

 

[Mike K.]

Rosie is simple proof that there's no lifeguard on duty in the gene pool.

 

[Diamondback]

Oh, puh-lease. Why does anyone take her seriously? She's living proof of what happens when you violate the dictum of:
"You have two eyes, two ears, one mouth. Therefore, you should see and hear twice as much--of each--as you say."--old Marine DI saying

I have many more thoughts about some of the moonbat theories, but no time to post them right now, and it gets rather difficult to keep my blood pressure down and my forked little tongue in check.

 

[MrBern]

Its a good example of how people propel internet hoaxes w/o really looking for answers from reliable sources.
And because she is on TV, the audience can forget that Rosie is an entertainer, not a journalist like her boss BarbaraWalters. Or former View moderator MeredithViera.

 

[Tomasso]

Rosie's career is one of the mysteries of life. Not funny, not smart, not good looking. [huh] And, rumor has it, a total witch.

 

[MrBern]

And, rumor has it, a total witch.

thats a rumor?
I heard a rumor that Keith Richards has a drink now & then

 

[HoosierDaddy]

The Donald hit the nail on the head. "Rosie is a bully". Her rants just follow that profile.
HD

 

[Kimberly]

I pay no attention to that blowhard. Not too manyy people get under my skin but I can't even look at her without wincing.

 

[Dan G]

She's so gross.

 

[CanadaDoll]

It's not only her belligerence that gets me, but also the fact that people must be watching this stuff, cause she's still on the air despite being as distasteful as she's been acting. I have trouble wrapping my mind around the concept that she could be considered entertainment by some people, or worse an intelligent perspective on events [huh]

 

[Diamondback]

What can I say, Americans today have no taste.

 

[Tomasso]

What can I say, Americans today have no taste.

In this case, I think that you'd have to say American women, as Rosie has few male followers.

 

[Dan G]

What can I say, Americans today have no taste.

I don't know if I'd call Rosie an American.

 

[beaucaillou]

I don't know if I'd call Rosie an American.

That's too convenient.

She's actually one of the best kind of Americans... kind of like Rush Limbaugh; terminally wrong, always ill-informed, embarassing, irritating and typifying exactly what it means to be American by running their ignorant mouths in an effort to exercise all of their freedoms. Much better than those who would rather not 'make waves' because it may be 'troublesome'. At least they have the guts to be entirely wrong... better than never taking a stance at all. At least she gets people thinking and talking, even if it is to vehemently oppose her.

Love em' or hate em' they are supremely necessary.

 

[Lady Day]

Well said, beaucaillou.

You need to have the extremes of something in order to make a decision (generally), weather you agree or no.

LD

 

[Dan G]

That's too convenient.

She's actually one of the best kind of Americans... kind of like Rush Limbaugh; terminally wrong, always ill-informed, embarassing, irritating and typifying exactly what it means to be American by running their ignorant mouths in an effort to exercise all of their freedoms. Much better than those who would rather not 'make waves' because it may be 'troublesome'. At least they have the guts to be entirely wrong... better than never taking a stance at all. At least she gets people thinking and talking, even if it is to vehemently oppose her.

Love em' or hate em' they are supremely necessary.

I don't really know whats convenient about it?[huh]
How does that typify what it means to be American? I seem to be under the impression that there are plenty of Americans that would rather not run their ignorant mouths. So those in the press think their something special. That typifies 300,000,000 other Americans? I think thats a GROSS overgeneralization. I'm very sorry, they may be Americans simply being this is the Nation of their birth.[huh] And I happen to have joined the Navy to Defend all those non-wave makers. By which I am wondering if you mean those of us that wish to lead a nice existence not burdened by someone else's constant desire to push their will on us, Being Rosie, or anyone for that matter.

 

[beaucaillou]

I don't really know whats convenient about it?[huh]
How does that typify what it means to be American? I seem to be under the impression that there are plenty of Americans that would rather not run their ignorant mouths. So those in the press think their something special. That typifies 300,000,000 other Americans? I think thats a GROSS overgeneralization. I'm very sorry, they may be Americans simply being this is the Nation of their birth.[huh] And I happen to have joined the Navy to Defend all those non-wave makers. By which I am wondering if you mean those of us that wish to lead a nice existence not burdened by someone else's constant desire to push their will on us, Being Rosie, or anyone for that matter.

I don't think I understand everything you are trying to state here. A couple of points I think I'm confusing: "So those in the press think their something special." and "That typifies 300,000,000 other Americans?" Clarifications would help me to understand what you are trying to say. Maybe I'm just mis-reading.

It's convenient because that's the post everyone runs to when they don't like what someone is saying in this country. The beauty of this country is the differences. If we didn't have that -- the full range and spectrum of extreme opinions, we would be a very sorry state.

If utilizing the Freedom of Speech and Expression is wave-making, then I think we are all guilty of irritating person X,Y, and Z in our communities, offices, and homes repeatedly. I disagree with very little of what most people say, but I absolutely respect their right to say it, and the experiences that would push them to the point of saying it. I don't have to agree to understand and respect someone, wrong or right.

It's nice to know that you *can* run your mouth and most likely won't be gunned down for it tomorrow. We always forget how key that is.

Also, not sure I understand... you are saying you would defend all non-wave makers, but not the wave-makers? Really? And how do you define which is which? And who do we determine is the right person to judge that? Most of the greatest figures in history have been monumental wave makers.

If she bothers people that much, then why pay attention? This is something I've never understood. She drives me crazy so I don't listen to her or watch her or read her. Why would I want to irritate myself for something as petty as Rosie O'Donnell? The fact that she can ignite any amount of discord only reinforces her power in the media. She may be wrong, but she knows how to utilize her medium well.

 

[Dan G]

The people in the press think they're something special. Nothing confusing about it.
This was your statement.

typifying exactly what it means to be American by running their ignorant mouths in an effort to exercise all of their freedoms

I was asking you if the people in media or what the media spouts really typifies 300,000,000 people.

It's convenient because that's the post everyone runs to when they don't like what someone is saying in this country. The beauty of this country is the differences. If we didn't have that -- the full range and spectrum of extreme opinions, we would be a very sorry state.

The point of my post was not to "run" to a cliche. By my statement I think Rosie is anti-American. From my oh so basic deductive reasoning skills, it seems she would do anything to bring disunity and aggression towards those she does not agree with. What happened to the whole 'One Nation' bit? Rather than rant and rant and rant, why not do something productive. So she doesn't like the troops in Iraq, there is nothing she can do about it. So why not spend her time being constructive rather than destructive. Rather than take the bad and the good, she will continue to show disrespect and be malicious.

I agree completely, If we didn't have the full range of extreme opinions, we would be a sad state. My point is respect can take us a long way.

It's nice to know that you *can* run your mouth and most likely won't be gunned down for it tomorrow. We always forget how key that is.

You are absolutely correct here. It is nice to know that. My thought is about being respectful, and courteous. I think thats pretty key as well. Nobody's going to kill Rosie. Though she certainly hasn't gained any respect from me by behaving like a spoiled child. I think they're are plenty of people that will agree.

Also, not sure I understand... you are saying you would defend all non-wave makers, but not the wave-makers? Really? And how do you define which is which? And who do we determine is the right person to judge that? Most of the greatest figures in history have been monumental wave makers.

By non-wave makers I'm talking about 3000 backwoods loggers in north Idaho who don't give a rats rear end about anything but surviving. This is a generalization. As no doubt there are far more of us that are considered the 'working class' I didn't say I wouldn't fight for wave-makers. A terrible assumption I'm afraid. Some of the worlds greatest leaders were and are wave makers. There are plenty of people who could care less though. Do you really think all those guys in Iraq want to make national news with their heroic exploits? (Note there is absolutely no sarcasm in my usage of the word exploits. Those guys are heros, and I would be honored beyond imagination to spend ten minutes with them.) No. They just want to see their friends come home. They want to be able to say, 'yea, I served my country.' all the while sitting on their back porch with their best friend from the 'war days' and knock back a couple of beers.

I have tried to relay my thoughts with tact, which I apologize for having a distinct lack of. I didn't mean for there to be any misunderstanding, or hard feelings. If there are, I sincerly apologize.

 

[Feraud]

Poor Rosie, she epitomizes the ugly American stereotype. What a shame she is exposed to so many people....

 

[WH1]

IMHO one of the dangers of the 24 hour media blitz we have with CNN, Fox, etc. is that we only seem to hear the extreme viewpoints and in very short bursts. This has led to a mentality of overreaction and extreme polarization. Rosie, Rush, ORielly, et al are a symptom of the fact that most americans prefer to be entertained or told what to think rather than digesting the information from multiple sources, analyzing it for themselves, and making a personal decision. We have changed the educational method in America from Socratic thought process to regurtitation.
I feel fortunate to have had Professors who taught me to analyze and think for myself. They taught myself and my class mates that it is possible to study an issue, reach different conclusions based upon viewpoint, and reach an intelligent compromise or consensus which benefits the majority. Over the last few years observing the educational system my sons have experienced I believe for the most part this has sadly become a thing of the past. Not an indictment of educators but of the system they are forced to teach in. Can it be changed? I believe it can if people such as those on this site make an effort to be reasonable, truly hear the other side and work to reach an understanding which benefits the majority. If you look at US history this has been an ongoing problem with our form of government, but the current technologies have exacerbated it by allowing almost instant response rather than being forced to think calmly and rationally before responding (like this)