Purpose of a stand collar?

[shamus]

What is the purpose of the stand collar on an A2?

What does it offer?

 

[green papaya]

http://www.anaspides.com/flight jackets.htm

 

[shamus]

Green;

not quite sure what you're saying? Does it talk about the stand collar?

 

[green papaya]

Green;

not quite sure what you're saying? Does it talk about the stand collar?

they dont mention a "stand" collar , they mention the button down snaps though.

I posted the picture of the A2 collar for refference, I would geuss maybe a stand up collar could help protect the pilot's neck area from a fire hazard? or help keep the wind out if he was flying with an open cock pit?

 

[BellyTank]

The 'collar stand' is just the same as on a dress shirt- since the A-2 is cut as a shirt(rather than a typical outer garment...), some of the earlier ones included this for a snappier style...
It's the bit where your tie fits on a dress shirt- the 3/4"-ish band between the neck opening and the actual collar. I don't like them on A-2s actually.

B
T

 

[airfrogusmc]

Heres a photo of a collar stand that John Chapman took. Most early A-2s had them. Most makers swithed over to the simple collar attachment on their later jackets.

 

[shamus]

that's what I'm talking about.

So it serves not purpose? Seems like a lot of extra sewing and cutting for nothing.. I guess that's why they stopped doing it.

My aero doesn't have one and I didn't know the reason for it?

 

[scotrace]

I thought

My jacket is a VERY cheap knockoff, but.

There's no stand, and the leather is very soft and floppy. I like to wear the collar up but it just flops anyway. Would a collar stand help the collar stand up? I thought that was the purpose - to allow the collar to be worn up and thus the wind kept out.

 

[airfrogusmc]

I'm not sure when you turn it up it stays up any better. I've owned A-2s with both and heven't really noticed a difference in that regard.

 

[Doh!]

My A-2's only a few years old, doesn't have the extra leather, but stays up just fine. I'm taking it St. Louis tomorrow for a cold week and will probably be testing this feature in the coming days.

 

[Mycroft]

I guess you could flip it up to keep your neck warm if need be. I do it with my jackets.

 

[jake431]

Theoretically, the collar sat a little higher on the jacket with the stand. This only made any difference when it was new; before too long the collar had relaxed and sat at about the same place as the collar standless A-2's. The nebulous worth of the stand and the extra effort is, I'm sure, why most manufacturers did away with the stand over time.

-Jake

 

[green papaya]

I think they did it to prevent the collar from "sagging" to help keep the collar up and giving the uniform a crisper sharper appearance, especially when worn with a shirt and tie, so the collar wont sag and look sloppy with a shirt collar worn underneath.