x-files... man... so many plot twistI went back and read this notorious thread. I see the problem.
Let's not get this started up again. I spent hundreds of hours on this the last time around. I don't need to repeat that.How in the world could posting photos of your jackets lead to a controversy?
FWIW, the maker said that they "skive" (exact word) the leather down. In this case they had to go from 1,4 mm to 0,9 mm through "skiving". And then for the 2nd jacket the same 1,4 mm leather was supposedly skived down to 1,0 mm.firmer leather can be caused by pressing the leather, so the thinner leather can be initially a thicker leather but processed through a pressing rolls to come out as 0.9mm while the other slightly thicker one but softer can be an non pressed leather that appear thicker but the inner structure is coarser/ looser fibers
I don't think I've completely answered your question beforehand, where I said:Also, 200 grams isn’t very much. What ratio of the total weight of the jackets is that?
I don't think I've completely answered your question beforehand, where I said:
First jacket (stiffer, smaller): 2,10 kg
Second jacket (softer, larger, supposedly thicker): 1,90 kg
So maybe the following information is also what you wanted to know. Simply put, this is by how much larger the 2nd jacket is:
Chest circumference: 12 cm
Hem circumference: 12 cm
Sleeve opening circumference: 10 cm
Cuff circumference: 4 cm
Sleeve length: 1 cm
In those five areas, it is by that amount of total centimeters larger.
I'm not sure if this helps answer your earlier question fully, but regardless, I would agree with Peacoat. Unless someone else has something significant to add to the subject, there's probably nothing more to discuss.
Thank you to everyone who helped out.
Not even once did I state that I like the lighter jacket less than the heavier one because of it's lighter weight. I explicitly stated that I was merely confused about the weight difference, but that I prefer the touch, feel, and everything else about the lighter one. The answer to your question is "no", of course.Have you thought about the possibility that you are so focused on the trees you can't see the forest?
Would you enjoy the larger jacket more if it was 50gr heavier than smaller one?
Yes, I already knew this. I just didn't make the relevant connections in regards to the weight, all the things that have been mentioned by now. Amateurish, embarrassing, maybe even downright stupid from my side, but it is what it is.Even so, it’s an organic material.
This is precisely what I did not know, and learned in this thread. Thanks to you and others.The same source, tanning, even skiving to the same thickness are still not going to result in something absolutely identical.
And this, too, is something I just learned.It’s not even the case for textiles, which is why if you’re having a suit made and want an extra pair of trousers, you should have both made at once because another batch of the same wool could show differences.
If you mean fake leather or something similar... hell no.I have never suggested this before but you may be a unique case of someone who would be happier with pleather, as it will give you the consistency you’re after.
Very interesting too. Thx.Another thing I can think of is that if they use the whole hide, different parts of the animal have denser skin, fiber structure, etc., such as the butt area, and some are looser such as belly area. Could also explain why one jacket has much different properties, one with softer temper (maybe from stomach portion?), despite being the same leather.
I am 100% with you here! I'm aware of what you and other mods had to go through last time, not only in the infamous thread, but also other threads which kept referring to it. And I'm sorry about that.Let's not get this started up again. I spent hundreds of hours on this the last time around. I don't need to repeat that.
And with this, too, I wholeheartedly agree.I think Zangy's question has been fully answered, and that this thread has run its course.