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moontheloon

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Thanks, Ant. I didn't know you had an Imperial. I should have figured you had one! The felt is great.... the brim width is most impressive. Love this hat.

Indeed I do
Wonderful piece
late 40s or very early 50s
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moontheloon

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That's gorgeous! Our hats are very similar. Mine doesn't say " Mode Edge" on it anywhere but it has the mode edge. I wonder if they had a discrepancy with Cavanagh at some point?

Possibly
Your hat looks slightly earlier ... maybe they didn't have to distinguish yet?


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40Cal

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Yessir ... stars on both the liner and sweat
And an interesting tip protector that is not on the entire tip panel but only over the logo and text
Now that is interesting. I've never seen that kind of tip protector before. Mine has the early sorta cloudy non plastic protector.... not sure what to call the material.
( sorry, Justin) haha
 
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It was late in the day when I could wear my new Crofut & Knapp Stingy straw. Well ventilated in the crown weave. The sweat is black, but ventilated and quite nicer than the usual 60s sweat. There is no store logo, but the C & K includes:"A product of the Hat Corporation of America". I did find they applied for this designation in November 1951. The pug has a real 60s vibe, but has a stain in the back which may not come out, possibly ink or grease. Thanks to @Miamibruno for sending it my way, the Postal Gorillas stomped the hell out of the box though.

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Daniele Tanto

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It is uncommon to come across a hat of the 1930s never worn and with the ribbon bundles yet
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I was fortunate enough to find an example of woll hat made in Esperaza - France the largest French centre of hats made in wool and exported all over the world. Very little has remained in this small country of the Aude
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Jean Pellie is the producer of a wonderful hat coming new after one hundred years, almost, of life
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Dlaniger

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A couple of weeks ago I was lucky enough to find a pair of nice Italian hats, a Borsalino and a Barbisio. Bummer was, both were too small for me.
Well, Stefan (steur) pointed out that they would fit him, and he had some that were too big, so a hat swap was on! After a flurry of PMs and emails, I had it narrowed down to three of the possible candidates. Stefan (with just a wee nudge from the Mrs.) made me the very generous offer of a 3 for 2 swap to spare me the stress of deciding. Couldn't pass that up! Upon receiving and inspecting the hats yesterday, I came to the conclusion that, as hard as it was to box up and send away those two beautiful hats, any two of the three I received in return would have easily soothed that anguish. The third? It was the whipped cream and maraschino cherry on top of the sundae.
So who got the best of the deal? I think Mrs. Steur might claim that honor if asked...:) one less dusty old hat in the house!
So here's the first. These have already been posted in detail by Stefan in their respective library threads, so I'm not risking sweats for tag shots even though they all seem to be in good shape.
Panizza Nocciola. Mid 50's to mid 60's is Stefan's estimate.

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The innards:

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No stamping on the sweatband. It looks reeded at first glance, but when I felt behind it, there was no reed tape. It has the fake reed edge on an unreeded sweat like my French mystery hat from Maximes. There is an unusual feature on the band, a few inches from the unsewn back seam is what felt like another seam or maybe where a piece was patched in...on closer inspection I can't tell what it is.

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Maybe the cow had a scar.

This one is also unusual to me in the fact that is quite generously shellacked. All of my other Italian hats except my fu Lazzaro bowler are much less stiffened. Not that it is in any way unmalleable or hard to shape, just a lot of body. The felt has a really nice feel to it. This is a hat for a man who likes sharp lines and deliberate creases. And a SNAP to his brim!
Crown at five inches open, brim at two and three eighths. One hundred and nine grams. Fit is very close, a slightly big 58.

Head shots. Truer color:

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Love it! Can't wait till the heat subsides enough to actually wear it.
Another one tomorrow!



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Dlaniger

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And the third installment of the Great International Hat Swap of '17.
Thus was the first one I looked at, and it was in my mental shopping cart before I even saw the last pic. A true no-brainer.

Mayser Spezial Homburg, 50's vintage.

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I really like the bow.

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Interior:

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Sweat stamps:

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And the factory tag:

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Felt and construction are everything I'd hoped for all these years seeing Steve's Maysers (plus those of other Loungers) but never having handled one. In a word, marvelous.
Crown at 5 1/2" open, brim at 2 1/4". 143g.

Head shot:

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Now I want more Maysers...:)

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Moe your on a roll!!! Love that Homburg!
 

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Nathaniel Finley

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So I landed yesterday in Nepal and one of the first things I saw when leaving the airport was a Tibetan gentlemen in a beautiful torquoise open-crowned felt hat. Cool, I thought, I forgot Tibetans like felt hats.

My guesthouse being just around the corner from the Big Stupa in Kathmandu, it's one of the main Tibetan centers of Nepal. It took me ten minutes to walk there this morning, mumbling to myself as I went along, "I wonder where the Tibetans sell felt hats? Never mind - they're probably too expensive anyway. And how the heck would I even carry another hat?"

Then I turned the corner to the Big Stupa and low and behold: felt hats! Lots of them!

All the felts sold in this area were the same brand, "Lihua Hats," whose slogan appears to be the very inventive, "well-known trademark of China." I suppose if that's your most important message it's good to get it out there as quickly as possible, so they actually printed it on the hat liner.

I googled the company and came up with their website if anybody's intersted. Looks like they supply Wal-Mart with hats, and maybe even Disney. They've got information in English here:
http://www.lihuahats.com/english/html/group1.htm

The hat I purchased is a high-crown model with lots of taper - very Tibetan looking. If you think an Akubra has felt like cardboard, let me tell you this stuff is nothing shy of plywood. I love the ribbon treatment but don't be fooled by that wind trolley: it's just an elastic band and isn't even attached to the hat! I think its real purpose is just to hold the ribbon on, though I haven't tested that theory for fear of instigating a domino effect of hat deconstruction.

The brim is quite flexible, however, which gives me hope that the crown might soften up with wear. That's what looks to be a real leather band inside of it (at least it doesn't tear when I try to rip it apart) but the liner is only a few small steps up from that kind of tissue paper you stuff into Christmas packages.

This fellow might disintrigate at the merest mention of precipitation, I have no idea, but I actually like it a lot. It's one of the hats that Tibetans seem to wearing today, and for a whopping 18 USD I thought, "Why the heck not? Maybe I can recruit my best friend to wear it back to Malaysia for me in three weeks." If it survives that long.

Here's a real Tibetan in just such a hat:
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And here's me:

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Cheers,
Nathan
 
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Nathaniel Finley

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I reckon it's worth about 20 bucks. It is rabbit felt, for sure.

Also, really interesting that Tibetans wear felt hats.

Yes, both men and women. Here are just a few shots from google. I'm loathe to take photos of Asians - even asking can be a problem for some - but I did see a number of Tibetan heads in felts while out wandering today. Most looked similar in quality/design to mine, but this one certainly looks original:

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My experience thus far with Tibetans has been nothing but class on the grandest scale. They are a warrior people, adventurous and proud, and I have no doubt the reasons why China has had such a hard time subduing them. I'm very excited to be back in McLeod Gange, India, the home of the Dalai Lama. I was there the first time two years ago, and it left an indelible impression on me.

You know @Nathaniel Finley Nathaniel Peruvian Indians in the mountains wear Hats like that , very similar . Great pictures , interesting .

Yes, there seem to be a lot of aesthetic similarities between the indigenous peoples of Central and South America and the traditional peoples of Asia. I'm sure there must be volumes dedicated to such studies. I haven't visited Central or South America yet, but hope to one day after my sojourn in Asia is complete (if it ever is. This continent is so rich in culture and wisdom - and hats! ;) )
 

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