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Steve1857

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G.A.Dunn & Co. boater (pre-WWI?). Advertised locally as an “Amish hat” for $15, but the seller took $10. Just the right amount of patina …

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No embossing on the sweatband — normal or a replacement? It appears to be a Bon Ton Ivy type.

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This was the typical Ozarks dead drop “the hat is in the BBQ grill on the barn porch — leave the cash”. We all know hats are like drugs. A dime bag of straw …

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Wish I could have topped off the gas tank at this price.
P.S. Bob. Remember to post it in the Boater Faction thread.
 

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Recently obtained a new Borsalino Bellagio in Charcoal. This hat is the "Qualitia Superiore" version of the Borsalino Classico.

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Surprisingly, I cannot tell the difference between the quality of this hat and the other "Alessandria" quality Classicos that I have. Aside from this hat having a wind cord, there is no visible difference between the two quality lines.

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Steve1857

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Recently obtained a new Borsalino Bellagio in Charcoal. This hat is the "Qualitia Superiore" version of the Borsalino Classico.

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Surprisingly, I cannot tell the difference between the quality of this hat and the other "Alessandria" quality Classicos that I have. Aside from this hat having a wind cord, there is no visible difference between the two quality lines.

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Always hard to tell. Sometimes it's just a designation, an advertising ploy if you will, especially in the very modern Borsalinos.

It can be due to the thickness of the felt, the ponce, the brim treatment, etc. etc.
 

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Bob, Thank you for checking. As Stefan mentioned Dunn & Co. sourced hats from various Hat companies (England, Continental
Bob, Thank you for checking. As Stefan mentioned Dunn & Co. sourced hats from various Hat companies (England, Continental Europe).
By the age of Bob's find, I suspect a Luton manufacturer for this early 1900s Dunn & Co beauty. It's very rare to find an actual Boater maker label.
 

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I bought an almost identical 3X OR a couple of weeks ago. It was sold as having mothing and stains but turned out to be in pretty great condition. Great news for me except that I was actually on the look out for more of a beater that I could wear hiking this summer.

And then this showed up on eBay for $21. This definitely has some visible moth holes and a few stains. I’m wearing it to work today because I love it but this will be the perfect thing for some rough wear, rain or shine.

Mid or late sixties I’d guess—liner glued in. But I’d take this over a modern Stetson any day.

Cheers,

David
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I bought an almost identical 3X OR a couple of weeks ago. It was sold as having mothing and stains but turned out to be in pretty great condition. Great news for me except that I was actually on the look out for more of a beater that I could wear hiking this summer.

And then this showed up on eBay for $21. This definitely has some visible moth holes and a few stains. I’m wearing it to work today because I love it but this will be the perfect thing for some rough wear, rain or shine.

Mid or late sixties I’d guess—liner glued in. But I’d take this over a modern Stetson any day.

Cheers,

David
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That’ll do the trick. Nice, David.
 
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I bought an almost identical 3X OR a couple of weeks ago. It was sold as having mothing and stains but turned out to be in pretty great condition. Great news for me except that I was actually on the look out for more of a beater that I could wear hiking this summer.

And then this showed up on eBay for $21. This definitely has some visible moth holes and a few stains. I’m wearing it to work today because I love it but this will be the perfect thing for some rough wear, rain or shine.

Mid or late sixties I’d guess—liner glued in. But I’d take this over a modern Stetson any day.

Cheers,

David
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For that price you can never go wrong, David. Some TLC and it will be even better.
 

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Two hats arrived today that I was quite excited about. Nothing big for the outside world, but two historical beauties for a Danish hat nerd. I seem to be the only one now that @TheDane doesn't post anymore.

The first is this ca. 1920s/30s Bowler. The art deco logo has kept its colour wonderfully during all its ca. 100 years. The name is fitting, too.

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Classic shape and bow treatment. Nice it has a wind trolley. Not often you see that on a Bowler. Usually, no need.

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I'm guessing German made. Only label under the sweat is this one

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Christian Vogel from the Danish mainland town of Grenaa was a tailer and gentleman's clothing establishment. He had this building built in 1900.

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Image from a postcard ca. 1902.

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Here, an image of the front of the building with the Vogel logo clearly like the one in the Bowler.

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A ca. 1960s image of the building.

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A very recent image.

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The Chr. Vogel name has gone from the top of the building, but you still have to go through the Christian Vogel company if you want to rent a space in the building.

Tøj Eksperten has taken over the shop. They are a modern gentleman's clothing outfitter, or men's clothing store, not the same quality of clothing as Chr. Vogel, nor anywhere near the same hats.

Icing on the cake, it fits.
 

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Two hats arrived today that I was quite excited about. Nothing big for the outside world, but two historical beauties for a Danish hat nerd. I seem to be the only one now that @TheDane doesn't post anymore.

The first is this ca. 1920s/30s Bowler. The art deco logo has kept its colour wonderfully during all its ca. 100 years. The name is fitting, too.

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Classic shape and bow treatment. Nice it has a wind trolley. Not often you see that on a Bowler. Usually, no need.

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I'm guessing German made. Only label under the sweat is this one

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Christian Vogel from the Danish mainland town of Grenaa was a tailer and gentleman's clothing establishment. He had this building built in 1900.

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Image from a postcard ca. 1902.

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Here, an image of the front of the building with the Vogel logo clearly like the one in the Bowler.

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A ca. 1960s image of the building.

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A very recent image.

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The Chr. Vogel name has gone from the top of the building, but you still have to go through the Christian Vogel company if you want to rent a space in the building.

Tøj Eksperten has taken over the shop. They are a modern gentleman's clothing outfitter, or men's clothing store, not the same quality of clothing as Chr. Vogel, nor anywhere near the same hats.

Icing on the cake, it fits.


So much to like. That liner is absolutely gorgeous.
 
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Two hats arrived today that I was quite excited about. Nothing big for the outside world, but two historical beauties for a Danish hat nerd. I seem to be the only one now that @TheDane doesn't post anymore.

The first is this ca. 1920s/30s Bowler. The art deco logo has kept its colour wonderfully during all its ca. 100 years. The name is fitting, too.

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Classic shape and bow treatment. Nice it has a wind trolley. Not often you see that on a Bowler. Usually, no need.

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I'm guessing German made. Only label under the sweat is this one

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Christian Vogel from the Danish mainland town of Grenaa was a tailer and gentleman's clothing establishment. He had this building built in 1900.

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Image from a postcard ca. 1902.

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Here, an image of the front of the building with the Vogel logo clearly like the one in the Bowler.

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A ca. 1960s image of the building.

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A very recent image.

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The Chr. Vogel name has gone from the top of the building, but you still have to go through the Christian Vogel company if you want to rent a space in the building.

Tøj Eksperten has taken over the shop. They are a modern gentleman's clothing outfitter, or men's clothing store, not the same quality of clothing as Chr. Vogel, nor anywhere near the same hats.

Icing on the cake, it fits.
That's a very fine example, Steve. Great to find out about its provenance as well. Score!
 

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Second new hat of today, same seller, same owner provenance.

A.F. Bodecker Top Hat. A favourite Danish hatmaker of mine.

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Supplied to a hat shop in the Danish mainland town of Randers.

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And to the same owner of the Bowler,
A Nielsen.

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Due to among other things, the Danish spelling of Copenhagen on the original hat box suggests this one is pre WWI.

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Sadly, the Top Hat doesn't fit. It's about two sizes smaller than the Bowler despite it being owned by the same man.

There's at least 15 to 20 years between the Topper and Bowler, probably more. My theory is, the gentleman bought the Top Hat as a young man, put on weight as an older gentleman and needed a larger size.

The seller says that they were her grandfather's wedding hats. Not really possible due to the age and size differences, but family history is hard to argue against so I won't burst her bubble.

I've been wanting an early A.F. Bodecker hat box for some time, so I'm more than pleased with my double hat purchase despite the one not being a fit.
 

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Two hats arrived today that I was quite excited about. Nothing big for the outside world, but two historical beauties for a Danish hat nerd. I seem to be the only one now that @TheDane doesn't post anymore.

The first is this ca. 1920s/30s Bowler. The art deco logo has kept its colour wonderfully during all its ca. 100 years. The name is fitting, too.

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Classic shape and bow treatment. Nice it has a wind trolley. Not often you see that on a Bowler. Usually, no need.

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I'm guessing German made. Only label under the sweat is this one

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Christian Vogel from the Danish mainland town of Grenaa was a tailer and gentleman's clothing establishment. He had this building built in 1900.

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Image from a postcard ca. 1902.

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Here, an image of the front of the building with the Vogel logo clearly like the one in the Bowler.

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A ca. 1960s image of the building.

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A very recent image.

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The Chr. Vogel name has gone from the top of the building, but you still have to go through the Christian Vogel company if you want to rent a space in the building.

Tøj Eksperten has taken over the shop. They are a modern gentleman's clothing outfitter, or men's clothing store, not the same quality of clothing as Chr. Vogel, nor anywhere near the same hats.

Icing on the cake, it fits.

Another beautiful bowler, Steve.
 

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