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Steve1857

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Congrats on the gamble, Stefan. Great it fits you. Sometimes you just have to go for it.
With your knowledge and experience I'm sure you win more often than not. Luckily, for your fellow Loungers, you're losses are often our gains, so win-win for you, too :)

Here's an interesting one (I think). Saw this hat on an auction site (note that the pic was less than half this size; I've upscaled it here). The description was "Hat from London. One size."
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Wrote to the seller if she could take a look under the sweatband to see what size it actually was. No reply. Made an offer. No reply. Even though it was certainly a velour hat I decided to skip it. Fast forward a few months and while I was browsing the site again I remembered this hat and searched for it. Sure enough it was still there. The price was not an obstacle and I had been lucky with the gamble hats lately, so I decided to go for it.
A few days later a huge box shows up with a hat inside, no other packing material, not even a plastic bag. O well, the hat was ok it seemed. Out came this one.
Tonak Jota velour in a size 57 or 58 (label says 5-58), but fits me remarkably well. Great caramel colour with the raw edge brim at 6,5 cm and the crown at 10,5cm at the center dent. The velour felt had some flat spots from storage, but some steaming and brushing took care of that. Wonderful hand to the felt and very soft.
Not from London and not one size, but boy am I glad I decided to take the gamble.
The label unfortunately doesn't state the date of manufacture (under "Tyden") as they usually do. I've only seen Jota quality hats from Hückel, so likely this was made shortly after the war just after Hückel was nationalised and made into Tonak and they still used the old Hückel quality names. Only flaw is that the liner is missing. The sweatband is worthy of note as it is 5,5cm wide! One of the widest I've seen.
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WonkyBloke

One of the Regulars
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UK
A mixed bag of hats over the last two days.

Brazilian Tarp Cap, to go with my Tarp Hat
Cotton bucket hat
Patchwork flat cap
Linen flat cap
Failsworth Cotton Henley
Jaxons Nubuck Safari

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Congrats on the gamble, Stefan. Great it fits you. Sometimes you just have to go for it.
With your knowledge and experience I'm sure you win more often than not. Luckily, for your fellow Loungers, you're losses are often our gains, so win-win for you, too :)
Thanks, Steve. True, I'm usually able to spot what looks like a decent hat. As others here have found out condition and even size seem to be open for interpretation!
 

Pellie

One Too Many
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Pilleus hungarian green hat. As new with a brim at front 7cm and at the sides 6cm. Crown 13cm. Really like this hat. It's 100% rabbit :)
 

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Whoever was making them in Colombia also made hats for Bates. The felt has been excellent on the few hats I’ve handled.
The felt supplier out of Australia mentioned to me he was about to source Beaver felts out of South America. I never followed up as the shipping time during Covid was stupid long. I wonder if his source is in Columbia?
 
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The felt supplier out of Australia mentioned to me he was about to source Beaver felts out of South America. I never followed up as the shipping time during Covid was stupid long. I wonder if his source is in Columbia?


Could be. All the Made in Colombia hats I’ve seen have been rabbit. The felt is dense and soft; I’d be very interested to get my hands on one of their beaver hats. You’d also think that coypu/nutria would be available in South America.
 
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Pilleus hungarian green hat. As new with a brim at front 7cm and at the sides 6cm. Crown 13cm. Really like this hat. It's 100% rabbit :)
I have googled my ass off, but i can not find anything about Pilleus. So the mystery is completed....
Can't comment on a green hat, can I?:D
No longer a mystery. The hat is made by the Sunemar Kalapház or Sunemar Hat House.
Here's their website (do use your browser's translate option!).
https://www.sunemar.hu/sunemar_kalaphaz
A modern company, started in 1977. Communism would likely have prevented earlier private attempts. The founder was schooled in the state hat factory. They work with rabbit and some wool. Haven't seen a mention of beaver or nutria. They do supply to other manufacturers though.
I think the name refers to the Roman "pileus" hat.
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Pellie

One Too Many
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Can't comment on a green hat, can I?:D
No longer a mystery. The hat is made by the Sunemar Kalapház or Sunemar Hat House.
Here's their website (do use your browser's translate option!).
https://www.sunemar.hu/sunemar_kalaphaz
A modern company, started in 1977. Communism would likely have prevented earlier private attempts. The founder was schooled in the state hat factory. They work with rabbit and some wool. Haven't seen a mention of beaver or nutria. They do supply to other manufacturers though.
I think the name refers to the Roman "pileus" hat.
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Thank you @steur for this information. I will take a look on the website.
How did you know this? I couldn't find anything haha
 

Snowman

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