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Cornshucker77

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This one was part of friday's haul, but not a Borsalino. Wouldn't know which Stetson thread to put this in, so here it is. Don't know why I bought this but it was unrecognizable when I found it. It looked like it had been run over by a truck, but I liked the colour. After brushing and steaming this came out. Royal Stetson made under license in Germany especially for Hut Zeumer. These licensed Stetson hats are not all that common. I have a few from England (different licensee) but this one is my first German one. Size 57 with an overwelt brim at 5,5cm and porkpie like crown at 10 cm. Backbow ribbon. The hat has Trachten influences like the back bow and the way it's shaped. Interesting piece, but not my style. Don't really know what to do with it.

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You did a wonderful job bringing it back to life.
 
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After spending a couple hours in the dentist chair, I came home just in time to sign for a box from Europe. The first I would like to showcase is a Hückel Special in a nice blue/gray. Firm felt that will need some steam to yield, but very smooth and nicely finished. I'm hoping Steve will chime in, but the "Special" seems to be an entry level hat, fine construction, but not high end. This is one of Stefan's epic finds.

This hat was originally sold at the store of Paavo Nurmi, "the Flying Finn". Nurmi was an olympic runner in the early 20th century winning 12 medals from 1920 to 1928. He opened a hat shop in Helsinki after WWII. He passed away in 1972. Love a hat with a story!
 
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One more before the cold drugs kick in...
An interesting little stingy with classic 60s lines. Made under license in England, a Penn-Craft. Moe has one that is much older, Stetson bought them, but we don't see ones of this era. Did Stetson release the Penn-Craft name for this license? The finish is really special, a short hair that is really soft and petable. The name on the manufacture tag is "Dale 63" which kind of matches the year it could be from.
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I think the center dent will stay, seems more British somehow. When I'm in a stingy mood, this one should see some serious head time. Fits like a custom.
 

Bill Hughes

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My first vintage Stetson Bluegrass and my first narrow ribbon. Actually, I've had other narrow ribbon fedoras but I have changed out the narrow ribbons for wider. This ribbon is growing on me and right now I'm thinking of keeping it as is. The picture of the bash is closest to the real color. I believe it's 50/60s.

I found the business card behind the sweatband. It even had the pinch protector still inside. I had never seen one of those before.

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My first vintage Stetson Bluegrass and my first narrow ribbon. Actually, I've had other narrow ribbon fedoras but I have changed out the narrow ribbons for wider. This ribbon is growing on me and right now I'm thinking of keeping it as is. The picture of the bash is closest to the real color. I believe it's 50/60s.

I found the business card behind the sweatband. It even had the pinch protector still inside. I had never seen one of those before.

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With that reorder tag and the stars logo in the liner, it's more like late 40s, early 50s. Nice liner, BTW.


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moontheloon

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My first vintage Stetson Bluegrass and my first narrow ribbon. Actually, I've had other narrow ribbon fedoras but I have changed out the narrow ribbons for wider. This ribbon is growing on me and right now I'm thinking of keeping it as is. The picture of the bash is closest to the real color. I believe it's 50/60s.

I found the business card behind the sweatband. It even had the pinch protector still inside. I had never seen one of those before.

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love that liner

I have it in a 40s strat I have ... fantatsic
 
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View attachment 102936 View attachment 102937 View attachment 102938 View attachment 102939 After spending a couple hours in the dentist chair, I came home just in time to sign for a box from Europe. The first I would like to showcase is a Hückel Special in a nice blue/gray. Firm felt that will need some steam to yield, but very smooth and nicely finished. I'm hoping Steve will chime in, but the "Special" seems to be an entry level hat, fine construction, but not high end. This is one of Stefan's epic finds.

This hat was originally sold at the store of Paavo Nurmi, "the Flying Finn". Nurmi was an olympic runner in the early 20th century winning 12 medals from 1920 to 1928. He opened a hat shop in Helsinki after WWII. He passed away in 1972. Love a hat with a story!
Mike, This is a TONAK Hückel (made in Communist Czechoslovakia) and appears to be from the late 1950s early 1960s. This hat would be considered high end in East Europe. I am not sure about the economic situation in Finland at that time. Here is my original post.

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/german-austrian-hutmachers.32103/page-315#post-2304820

Update:

You can read about Finland's post WWII economy here (scroll to "The Postwar Boom until the 1970s"). They had trade with the Soviet Union so that might have extended to the rest of East Europe.

https://eh.net/encyclopedia/an-economic-history-of-finland/
 
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One more before the cold drugs kick in...
An interesting little stingy with classic 60s lines. Made under license in England, a Penn-Craft. Moe has one that is much older, Stetson bought them, but we don't see ones of this era. Did Stetson release the Penn-Craft name for this license? The finish is really special, a short hair that is really soft and petable. The name on the manufacture tag is "Dale 63" which kind of matches the year it could be from. View attachment 102940 View attachment 102941 View attachment 102942 View attachment 102943 I think the center dent will stay, seems more British somehow. When I'm in a stingy mood, this one should see some serious head time. Fits like a custom.
Stefan's reply,

Mike, I can't recall if someone here discovered what English Hat company had the Stetson license. Does the hat have a paper label?
Steve, Failsworth, England held the Stetson license since 1949.
http://www.failsworth1903.com/history/
 
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Stefan's reply,

Mike, I can't recall if someone here discovered what English Hat company had the Stetson license. Does the hat have a paper label?
Steve, Failsworth, England held the Stetson license since 1949.
http://www.failsworth1903.com/history/
The paper label is not much help. Nothing else under the sweat, not even a union stamp. It is interesting that they were still old school with a typewriter. Stefan thinks "Dale 63" may be a year of manufacture. Sure feels like a early 60s hat with these lines.
The Failsworth connection is interesting, since Penn-Craft was bought by Stetson before the war, they had the name and probably passed it along in the license.
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Mike, This is a TONAK Hückel (made in Communist Czechoslovakia) and appears to be from the late 1950s early 1960s. This hat would be considered high end in East Europe. I am not sure about the economic situation in Finland at that time. Here is my original post.

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/german-austrian-hutmachers.32103/page-315#post-2304820

Update:

You can read about Finland's post WWII economy here (scroll to "The Postwar Boom until the 1970s"). They had trade with the Soviet Union so that might have extended to the rest of East Europe.

https://eh.net/encyclopedia/an-economic-history-of-finland/

Thank you Steve. I had not captured Stefan's original post and your reply. I'm starting to create history files on my hats, I'm just that kind of geek, and you are a much cited source!
 
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The paper label is not much help. Nothing else under the sweat, not even a union stamp. It is interesting that they were still old school with a typewriter. Stefan thinks "Dale 63" may be a year of manufacture. Sure feels like a early 60s hat with these lines.
The Failsworth connection is interesting, since Penn-Craft was bought by Stetson before the war, they had the name and probably passed it along in the license.
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Mike, That would be my guess. It's great that Stefan found out that Failsworth had the Stetson licence.
 
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Thank you Steve. I had not captured Stefan's original post and your reply. I'm starting to create history files on my hats, I'm just that kind of geek, and you are a much cited source!
Mike, This is an interesting time because you had Hückel Weilheim using the Hückel brand name for the German markets and TONAK using it outside of those markets when needed. My guess is that Hückel was a known brand name in Finland going back to before WWII and TONAK was a good price fit for the market (also there was a trade relationship with the East Block due to WWII reparations). For East European and Soviet markets TONAK used a similar JHS logo but replaced the name Hückel with TONAK (for obvious reasons). To this day TONAK uses JHS logos but doesn't mention Hückel. You can see the J.H.S. initials between the hare and beaver.

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40s (?) Stetson 3x Beaver. hat has whip stitching (is that the correct term), and the felt is a cream white color. the sweat was replaced, but the hat body is flawless (minus some slight dirty spots). tagged as a 7 1/8 but feels more closer to the 1/4 range on my noggin
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Wow, that's gorgeous, Justin. Good get.


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