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Lefty

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Rlk - where did you find the old Panizza - ebay.fr or .it? I can only recall 1 Panizza on .com. (edit: scratch that, I guess I haven't looked in a while.)
That fuzzy is great. :eusa_clap
 

RickH

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rlk said:
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Reminds me of the surrealist, Oppenheim's, teacup (circa 1936)!
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rlk said:
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New Old Stock original Factory Barbisio Satin Hare Light Gray with Dk Brown Ribbon.
Beautiful hat! Where did you come by these?
 

rlk

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Lefty said:
Rlk - where did you find the old Panizza - ebay.fr or .it? I can only recall 1 Panizza on .com. That fuzzy is great. :eusa_clap
The New Old Stock are from Roberto Manzoni in Ravenna. The pickings are slim in the more common sizes but there are Original House Borsalinos Panizzas and Barbisios. If you are a 56 you have more choices. Lots of Green Barbisios in odd sizes. Most are from the early 80's when the factories closed so have shorter brims but not all.
 

UWS Cowboy

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This is a Dobbs twenty I picked up earlier. My last hat for a good while, believe me. I just wanted a good light weight felt for summer and this, I think, will do the trick. I'll post better pictures later. Don't have any measuring tape around, but this seems to be about a 6 inch crown with a brim of 2 1/4 or so. Sweatband is light tan. I may have to get some work done on the sweatband like extra stitching by a tailor because some areas around the edge are pretty dry and slightly cracked. Any ideas on dating? I thought it was a homburg originally but the binding is very thin and the brim snaps down fairly easily.
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Brad Bowers

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Looks nice, though I'd like to see those better photos.:)

It's still a Homburg with that much curl, though it might have been meant to be a convertible. Thin binding on Dobbs and Cavanagh Homburgs is not unusual. As for age, hard to say. I'd have to see photos of the sweatband, liner, and any tags or labels underneath the sweat. Best guess at this point is mid-Forties or later.

Brad
 

Dinerman

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bolthead said:
My Tom & Jerry came today....

I've been wanting one of these for a long time, but it's hard to find a nice wider brim Knox T & J in my size believe it or not. As you may or may not see from the pics, it's a 7 1/8 and a bit loose, so I had to stuff the liner a little. [huh]

I was hoping to find a wider brim like I said, but I'm still thrilled with it, especially for what I got it for. :D

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The flash mottled the color some. It's much darker and it has an olive tint too it. I love the ribbon treatment, with the pinstripes going through it, and the one way Bow.

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The seam in the back of the sweat is separating a bit, but that's an easy fix.

Anyone know how old it might be?

I sold one almost exactly like that two years ago or so, but mine was creased in a porkpie. Very unusual hat.

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J.T.Marcus

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Mineola, Texas
UWS Cowboy said:
This is a Dobbs twenty I picked up earlier. My last hat for a good while, believe me. I just wanted a good light weight felt for summer and this, I think, will do the trick. I'll post better pictures later. Don't have any measuring tape around, but this seems to be about a 6 inch crown with a brim of 2 1/4 or so. Sweatband is light tan. I may have to get some work done on the sweatband like extra stitching by a tailor because some areas around the edge are pretty dry and slightly cracked. Any ideas on dating? I thought it was a homburg originally but the binding is very thin and the brim snaps down fairly easily.
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That one definitely looks like a Homburg. :eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap
(It is possible, of course, to turn a bound edge fedora into a Homburg. Grosgrain shrinks when it gets wet and then dries, thus causing the edge to curl. Maybe that will be my next "hatrodding" project.)
 

UWS Cowboy

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Interesting. :) I'm going to leave it like this because I think it looks nice. I think the sweatband will be fine as well, at least for a good while. I might apply a thin layer of glue along the stitching. Nothing that would touch the felt. Any tips on what kind of glue? Would superglue work? I don't want my hairs getting pulled out when I take the hat off. :eusa_doh:
 

Mr_Misanthropy

Practically Family
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Chicago, Illinois
Squatter

Here's my new Akubra Squatter. I did a pretty poor job of bashing it, I really just gave up. I may send it somewhere to get done, or I'll take it somewhere next time I'm in Chicago. But anyway, here is the bash for now...
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UWS Cowboy

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Brad Bowers said:
Looks nice, though I'd like to see those better photos.:)

It's still a Homburg with that much curl, though it might have been meant to be a convertible. Thin binding on Dobbs and Cavanagh Homburgs is not unusual. As for age, hard to say. I'd have to see photos of the sweatband, liner, and any tags or labels underneath the sweat. Best guess at this point is mid-Forties or later.

Brad
Here are the better photographs. I like this hat a lot.
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Dreispitz

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Just picked this up from the customs. Cavanagh Derby :rolleyes:

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Brad Bowers

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Looks good, Dreispitz!

What markings are on the sweatband, or labels underneath it? Any information I can collect for my research is useful.

Thanks.

Brad
 

Dreispitz

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Brad Bowers said:
Looks good, Dreispitz!

What markings are on the sweatband, or labels underneath it? Any information I can collect for my research is useful.

Thanks.

Brad

Hi Brad,

On the sweatband, there is the Cavanagh NY lable. No further dealer´s mark. Underneath the sweatband is a green paper lable. I can make a picture, once the leather is moistured enough, so that I do not tear the leather, fiddling around too much, right now.

However, the hat is in brand new condition! Cavanagh edge is present! Very light feel and altogether superbly crafted.

Dreispitz
 
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rlk said:
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New Old Stock original Factory Panizza Ediston Flaman Hare. This has to be the world's softest hat. It is fussy about which way you brush.

This short brim Borsalino I just acquired has a similar (slightly shorter) finish.

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Here is a interesting Lembert. It combines two different felt types.

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Viper Man

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Stone City, IL
Brad Bowers said:
Looks good, Dreispitz!

What markings are on the sweatband, or labels underneath it? Any information I can collect for my research is useful.

Thanks.

Brad

It just occured to me that I have never photographed the liners or sweats on my Cavanaghs for posterity. Brad, is there a thread here devoted solely to Cavs? I'd love to share.
 

Brad Bowers

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Viper Man said:
It just occured to me that I have never photographed the liners or sweats on my Cavanaghs for posterity. Brad, is there a thread here devoted solely to Cavs? I'd love to share.

rlk started one the other day: The Cavanagh Club

That would be fantastic if you could do that. Thanks!

Brad
 

xigxag

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Brussels, Belgium
Found 2 Federations Deluxe iV on the doorstep this week :D
A dark brown and a moonstone.
They are instant favourites.
First time I tried to bash a hat myself. I like a tight pinch.

Dark brown :

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Moonstone :
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