Pointy-collared dress shirts

[J. Brisbin]

I was in Kohl's the other day and picked up a nice herringbone white dress shirt at %60 off (gotta love Kohl's) and noticed a large number of Arrow shirts with collars that were significantly pointier than the other shirts there. I compared collars and the difference was noticeable. I looked in every stack and couldn't find one in my size (one thing I hate about Kohl's...they've got what they've got and that's it). I wanted to mention it, though, since we've been talking about severe points on collars for some time. They also had a brand of dress shirts that had french cuffs (yes, french cuffs in Kohl's!) but again, none in my size.

If you have a Kohl's nearby, you might check. They had some great shirts (herringbone and various colors) and the night I was there they had 50-60% off.

I was watching TCM the other night and they had a Philo Vance movie on (The Dragon Murder Case) from the late '30s and one of the characters had the largest collars I have ever seen on a shirt. Larger, even, than '70s collars. They came straight down the edges of his tie to the middle of the gorge. They must have been a good 4 or 5 inches long. I can't see myself wearing a shirt like that, but it would sure be an eye-catcher!

 

[Feraud]

I too have noticed Kohl's Arrow brand have narrower points to their collars.
The slim fit Van Heusen brand also has a decent collar.
See here -

Regarding Philo Vance, was the character's collar similar to this?

 

[Tomasso]

 

[Feraud]

That shirt was in a Domenico Vacca retail window. The collar height was around 3-4".

 

[Orgetorix]

Egad!

Somebody show it to Stanleyvanburen!

 

[Undertow]

J, were those shirts at Kohl's 100% cotton, or were they a cotton/poly blend?

 

[StanleyVanBuren]

Egad!

Somebody show it to Stanleyvanburen!

Oh har har. lol

 

[happyfilmluvguy]

Van Heusen collars (in my experience) usually part too wide. They don't align with the tie, they part away from it. I have one shirt and one shirt only that aligns with a tie. It's by John Ashford.

 

[TCameron]

Van Heusen

Having worn a Van Husen shirt everyday of my life (no joke) for 4 years now, I know the line very well. If you manage to find an outlet store near you, there are deals to be had, and they are worth it. However, don't expect miracles as the collars and points of them will eventually become worn and show their age an eventually wear down to show white, not the color of the fabric you bought. They are a poly/cotton blend, and are hard to get wrinkles into, and destory immediatley.

 

[Feraud]

Van Heusen collars (in my experience) usually part too wide. They don't align with the tie, they part away from it. I have one shirt and one shirt only that aligns with a tie. It's by John Ashford.

So you prefer the Ashfords to the V.Heusens? I find the opposite is true. I can wear a collar bar with a Van Heusen (slim cut line) while the Ashfords do not accept a bar.

 

[happyfilmluvguy]

It's not that I don't prefer one over the other, I just haven't found the right one. [huh] Someday. I do have one shirt that I mentioned before. Not a pointed collar but it's 100% cotton and has a slim fit.

 

[Tomasso]

I just haven't found the right one. [huh] Someday.

You could have your perfect shirt made by a local shirtmaker and then use it as prototype for an Asian shirtmaker to copy. For instance, Freddy Vandecasteele in LA will make you whatever you like for around $150 and Jantzen in HK will copy it for around $40. Just a thought.[huh]

 

[Baron Kurtz]

One day i'll get this one copied:

bk

 

[Feraud]

Do you have anyone in mind to copy it? How do I get on that bandwagon!

One day i'll get this one copied:

bk

 

[Dagwood]

Always been confused on undercurve - is the Baron's shirt collar a good example of the undercurve?

 

[Feraud]

Always been confused on undercurve - is the Baron's shirt collar a good example of the undercurve?

Yes it is. Look at his shirt and those below.

If you notice the curve of Baron Kurtz's collar rests with the shape of his chest rather than against it.

 

[BellyTank]

Always been confused on undercurve - is the Baron's shirt collar a good example of the undercurve?

I would say so- as you can see, it allows the collar to follow the body shape,
from collar bone, down the chest. It works.
BK's example is finely tuned, style-wise.

I think it's a great one.

I actually have a similarly shaped d.etachable collar.

B
T

 

[Dagwood]

Eureka!!! I finally understand. Thanks for the help Feraud and BT.

 

[Baron Kurtz]

pity the gawl durned thing is cover'd in moth holes and patches and rips and holes . . . and stains. made in Liverpool, one would imagine 1930s.

Unwearable. I just wore it for the collar pic. And i only bought it so's i could have it copied someday . . .

bk

I was planning on copying it myself.

 

[J. Brisbin]

Regarding Philo Vance, was the character's collar similar to this?

The tips of the collars probably came down at least that far, but the back part of the collar looked to be about a normal height. No room for three buttons up front.