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Photos of hatters tools

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If you wouldn't mind post some images of the attachment.

I just bound a brim last night, working on making the wind trolley now and tested a new method to get a tight fit of the hat band. Working great as long as I do a two piece hat band. The one I am putting on is a two direction sharksgill bow.
I sometimes wake up too early and can't get back to sleep. I stay in bed and use that time to come up with hat making solutions. The other day I came up with what I think is a better way to get the tight fit of the ribbon to the hat. I will let you know when I have a chance to try it out. Right now I am making hats with leather bands/conchos....no ribbon/bow work to do.

I will post some pics when my wife unboxes it. We have two hats to add brim treatment....just waiting for the binding ribbon to arrive.
 

Tonio

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Hello, I received this photo from a friend and was wondering if anyone knew its intended purpose?

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ChicagoWayVito

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Hello, I received this photo from a friend and was wondering if anyone knew its intended purpose?

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Do you have any other information about it? Company name or any markings?
I don't know for sure if it is even for hatters but when I saw it my mind immediately thought that it could be part of the felting process as there are steps where they wring out the felt hood and continue the felting process. That tool looks like it could be used for that process but that is just an guess.

Doing and image search on this item led me to this site: Object of the Week - Holst Birthplace Museum (holstmuseum.org.uk) which calls is a Victorian Mangle and the primary purpose was to wring water out of laundry but I could see that same machine being adapted for felting too.
 

Tonio

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Do you have any other information about it? Company name or any markings?
I don't know for sure if it is even for hatters but when I saw it my mind immediately thought that it could be part of the felting process as there are steps where they wring out the felt hood and continue the felting process. That tool looks like it could be used for that process but that is just an guess.

Doing and image search on this item led me to this site: Object of the Week - Holst Birthplace Museum (holstmuseum.org.uk) which calls is a Victorian Mangle and the primary purpose was to wring water out of laundry but I could see that same machine being adapted for felting too.

Great, thanks for weighing in. It definitely makes sense. The mangle looks really close. I’ll follow up if there are any markings on it.
 
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I am considering purchasing an industrial steam iron, and would like some advice. Currently, I use the household Black & Decker we also use for clothes. I was hoping I could get more steam out of an industrial-type iron, but have no idea what to look for.

Any suggestions?
 

ChicagoWayVito

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I am considering purchasing an industrial steam iron, and would like some advice. Currently, I use the household Black & Decker we also use for clothes. I was hoping I could get more steam out of an industrial-type iron, but have no idea what to look for.

Any suggestions?
I use the Reliable 3000is pro steam station, it works well and is the smaller of the options from Reliable. It costs something like $449

https://reliablecorporation.com/products/3000is-pro-iron-station
 
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We had a discussion recently (in the wrong thread) about restoring hats and possible copyright issues. That has been discussed enough (for me at least). To be able to restore Borsalino hats and their sweatbands I ordered this die stamp.
Not exactly cheap (the import taxes doubled the price in effect) but a nice object in its own right.

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humanshoes

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We had a discussion recently (in the wrong thread) about restoring hats and possible copyright issues. That has been discussed enough (for me at least). To be able to restore Borsalino hats and their sweatbands I ordered this die stamp.
Not exactly cheap (the import taxes doubled the price in effect) but a nice object in its own right.

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Beautiful!
 

ChicagoWayVito

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We had a discussion recently (in the wrong thread) about restoring hats and possible copyright issues. That has been discussed enough (for me at least). To be able to restore Borsalino hats and their sweatbands I ordered this die stamp.
Not exactly cheap (the import taxes doubled the price in effect) but a nice object in its own right.

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Beautiful!

I have to agree with @humanshoes, very beautiful work by the machinist to make that stamp. Did you find them on Etsy?
 
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Beautiful!
I have to agree with @humanshoes, very beautiful work by the machinist to make that stamp. Did you find them on Etsy?
Thanks, guys. Not on Etsy. This was made by a company called Zonesun Technology ltd.. They seem to specialise in the foil stamp machines and the die stamps are an extra product.
https://www.zonesuntech.com/
The custom die stamps can be found here:
https://www.zonesuntech.com/collect...amp-for-foil-stamping-leather-wood-bread-food
The stamp itself is not all that expensive, but with the shipping and customs fees added it was more than I had reckoned with.
 

humanshoes

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Found stuffed away in a leather suitcase in the attic of an old house in former East Berlin, this old, German, C-prefix, Singer cap sewing machine has finally found it's way to my little hat shop here in Tennessee. If this machine could talk, I can only imagine the story it could tell. Rough estimate of manufacture date is around the early 1930's, but impossible to know for sure as, soon after WWII, all the machinery, assets, and records from the German Singer factory were seized as "war reparations" and sent to Russia. After many hours on my workbench, this machine is sewing perfectly once more. I'm more than happy to have been able to return this rare and beautiful survivor to a useful and productive life.

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Also, here's an interesting article from the ISMACS website.

Singer’s German Factory at Wittenberge
ISMACS News
Issue 114
by Martin Gregory

At the start of the twentieth century, Singer’s Clydebank factory could not keep up with supplying the whole European market so two large new factories were planned; one in Germany and the other in Russia. The German factory was started in 1903 at Wittenberge in Prussia, west of Berlin on the river Elbe. The first machines were produced in 1904.

Wittenberge machines were given the suffix D to the class number (e.g. class 15D) and serial numbers carried the prefix letter C.

Production continued until 1940 when military production displaced most of the sewing machine lines. Total production up to 1943 ran to approximately 6.5 million machines. After the war, Wittenberge found itself in Eastern Germany, the area under Russian control.

In June 1946, the Singer Company were informed that the machinery in the factory had been dismantled and taken to Russia as war reparations and the factory lay empty for several years. Under the DDR, the factory was re-equipped and traded as VEB Nahmaschinenwerk Wittenberge as part of the state textile machinery combine, ‘VEB Kombinat Textima’. The machines made for the DDR were badged with some new names and some old names such as Veritas, used by Clemens Muller of Dresden before the war, and Naumann, used by Seidel & Naumann of Dresden before the war. With the reunification of Germany the plant was closed on January 31st 1992 having produced just over 7.5 million machines.
 

ChicagoWayVito

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Found stuffed away in a leather suitcase in the attic of an old house in former East Berlin, this old, German, C-prefix, Singer cap sewing machine has finally found it's way to my little hat shop here in Tennessee. If this machine could talk, I can only imagine the story it could tell. Rough estimate of manufacture date is around the early 1930's, but impossible to know for sure as, soon after WWII, all the machinery, assets, and records from the German Singer factory were seized as "war reparations" and sent to Russia. After many hours on my workbench, this machine is sewing perfectly once more. I'm more than happy to have been able to return this rare and beautiful survivor to a useful and productive life.

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Also, here's an interesting article from the ISMACS website.

Singer’s German Factory at Wittenberge
ISMACS News
Issue 114
by Martin Gregory

At the start of the twentieth century, Singer’s Clydebank factory could not keep up with supplying the whole European market so two large new factories were planned; one in Germany and the other in Russia. The German factory was started in 1903 at Wittenberge in Prussia, west of Berlin on the river Elbe. The first machines were produced in 1904.

Wittenberge machines were given the suffix D to the class number (e.g. class 15D) and serial numbers carried the prefix letter C.

Production continued until 1940 when military production displaced most of the sewing machine lines. Total production up to 1943 ran to approximately 6.5 million machines. After the war, Wittenberge found itself in Eastern Germany, the area under Russian control.

In June 1946, the Singer Company were informed that the machinery in the factory had been dismantled and taken to Russia as war reparations and the factory lay empty for several years. Under the DDR, the factory was re-equipped and traded as VEB Nahmaschinenwerk Wittenberge as part of the state textile machinery combine, ‘VEB Kombinat Textima’. The machines made for the DDR were badged with some new names and some old names such as Veritas, used by Clemens Muller of Dresden before the war, and Naumann, used by Seidel & Naumann of Dresden before the war. With the reunification of Germany the plant was closed on January 31st 1992 having produced just over 7.5 million machines.
Very cool!! Any idea on the model number of this machine?
 

humanshoes

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Very cool!! Any idea on the model number of this machine?
Sadly, I don't know CWV. After hours of research, I've not been able to find another machine just like this one. Because of the tensioning system, stitch length adjustment, and bed configuration, I can only say with any certainty that it is a millinery machine. It has some of the attributes of both the model 24 and model 25 straw braid and cap machines, but it's not exactly like any of the commonly known models. The gentleman in Germany also did extensive research on his end with no definitive results. Normally we'd be able to pin it down based on the serial number, but that data is lost to history. Add the fact that this machine was never badged with the model number as was common for most Singer models and I'm afraid it will always remain a mystery. If anyone out there has ANY information about this machine I'd be thrilled if they'd share it.
 

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