Past Lives and Einstein's Theory of Spooky Science at a Distance...

[philosophygirl78]

I was speaking to a friend last weekend about past lives and the latest physics advances on affecting objects at a distance without touch... it appears that theoretical physicists in europe and north america have proven that in fact it is possible to impact an object at a distance without making physical contact... the implications from this finding will indeed impact many theories of our world.

It is interesting to imagine the possibilities that exist within time, not just as past and future, but within dimensions, millions of variables in fact, and infuse the idea of other lives or other selves co existing in time / space variations.. Perhaps part of the memory, or dejavu, comes into play in some way with this....

perhaps our DNA or neurons work as receptors within these dimensions...

perhaps some ideas in this forum will enlighten new perspectives...

Perhaps... They already have...

looking forward to your thoughts, xo, philosophygirl

 

[MikeKardec]

I've always wondered if we don't exist in an overlapping series of universes. The multiverse is a common theme in Sci Fi where it is often dealt with as a series of separate "parallel universes." I've often wondered if it isn't somewhat different. Perhaps everything that is possible exists at once. Every single thing, every subtle different position of sub atomic particles, and we all inhabit a range of realities at any one time. Not all of them but some and then to a certain degree others. The degree to which we inhabit those on either side of us becomes less and less, these would be the realities we seem to half sense, dream, imagine, feel connected to but can't quite be in. Fully experiencing a noticeably different alternate "timeline" would be difficult but not impossible ... I'm nearly certain that's where the missing socks go.

Possibly there is no time travel but simply everything that could possibly exist, which covers an awful lot, like realities that are like other times which are moving through time as we are. All that has some bearing on "past lives" because people who experience them tend to be drawn to historical figures and occasionally people who lived at the same time. If there is any reality to it at all there seems to be something bigger than just genetic memory or delusions of grandure.

 

[LizzieMaine]

I sometimes think of alternate universes in terms of a old-style color TV set. When you're watching one, you're not seeing one image, but a red image, a green image, and a blue image perfectly aligned to produce the illusion of a single full-color image. If the convergence of the set is out of adjustment, you'll see fringes of these colors -- if one of the three color circuits isn't working properly, you might lose one of the colors entirely, and the resulting image is incomplete.

What if reality is like that? What if our reality is simply the result of an endless series of realities overlaid upon each other to produce the illusion of one? What if flashbacks and deja-vu and apparent time slips, and other such phenomena are simply the result of reality's convergence being out of adjustment. Maybe it's simply a case of the Eternal Cosmic TV Repairman popping out a bad 12AU7 tube and sticking in a new one, and reality blips while the repair is happening?

If there truly are "infinite realities," then there's a reality where our own reality is just a long-running TV show, and in an infinite number of alternate realities, people are sitting around in living rooms, bars, and appliance stores, watching our reality play out and hoping things get better once the writer's strike is resolved.

 

[philosophygirl78]

I've always wondered if we don't exist in an overlapping series of universes. The multiverse is a common theme in Sci Fi where it is often dealt with as a series of separate "parallel universes." I've often wondered if it isn't somewhat different. Perhaps everything that is possible exists at once. Every single thing, every subtle different position of sub atomic particles, and we all inhabit a range of realities at any one time. Not all of them but some and then to a certain degree others. The degree to which we inhabit those on either side of us becomes less and less, these would be the realities we seem to half sense, dream, imagine, feel connected to but can't quite be in. Fully experiencing a noticeably different alternate "timeline" would be difficult but not impossible ... I'm nearly certain that's where the missing socks go.

Possibly there is no time travel but simply everything that could possibly exist, which covers an awful lot, like realities that are like other times which are moving through time as we are. All that has some bearing on "past lives" because people who experience them tend to be drawn to historical figures and occasionally people who lived at the same time. If there is any reality to it at all there seems to be something bigger than just genetic memory or delusions of grandure.

The multiverse is pretty much a mute point when it comes to physics. I do know that some guru's like Michio Kaku adhere to it, but there are many problems with this theory... Notably, Time can only move in one direction at a time. If it moves faster than the speed of light, then it would be moving backwards, which is impossible... What is interesting though is the idea of quantifiable limitless time moments (to put simply). This is a rather fascinating docu on it:

With regard to people assimilating with historical figures or locations, I would say that makes it more comfortable since this aspect of reality is very young and not understood or widely accepted.

As for the socks.... I would attribute it to a superior intelligence's idea of a funny...

 

[Harp]

in fact it is possible to impact an object at a distance without making physical contact...

It is interesting to imagine the possibilities that exist within time, not just as past and future, but within dimensions, millions of variables in fact, and infuse the idea of other lives or other selves co existing in time / space variations.. Perhaps part of the memory, or dejavu, comes into play in some way with this....

perhaps our DNA or neurons work as receptors within these dimensions...

Locke's empiricism, Condillac, Taine, and Theo Epstein; disciple of Billy Bean. Philosophy, psychology, and all the diamond facets of Moneyball writ large.

 

[philosophygirl78]

Locke's empiricism, Condillac, Taine, and Theo Epstein; disciple of Billy Bean. Philosophy, psychology, and all the diamond facets of Moneyball writ large.

They still have to go in only one direction to actually achieve a home run... Its the overlap of various points in time that can co exist.. Who's on First? One can be on first, and another on second. But not at the same 'time'...

 

[philosophygirl78]

I sometimes think of alternate universes in terms of a old-style color TV set. When you're watching one, you're not seeing one image, but a red image, a green image, and a blue image perfectly aligned to produce the illusion of a single full-color image. If the convergence of the set is out of adjustment, you'll see fringes of these colors -- if one of the three color circuits isn't working properly, you might lose one of the colors entirely, and the resulting image is incomplete.

What if reality is like that? What if our reality is simply the result of an endless series of realities overlaid upon each other to produce the illusion of one? What if flashbacks and deja-vu and apparent time slips, and other such phenomena are simply the result of reality's convergence being out of adjustment. Maybe it's simply a case of the Eternal Cosmic TV Repairman popping out a bad 12AU7 tube and sticking in a new one, and reality blips while the repair is happening?

If there truly are "infinite realities," then there's a reality where our own reality is just a long-running TV show, and in an infinite number of alternate realities, people are sitting around in living rooms, bars, and appliance stores, watching our reality play out and hoping things get better once the writer's strike is resolved.

Interesting perspective... I am not sure how it would be possible to experience two things (overlapping colors, screens) at the same time though. For a thing to have existence, it must be present. And a thing cannot be present in two places at once. Although, a thing can be present in different places at different points in 'time'. So, that alludes to the possibility of 'time travel' in a sense, with the same entity being able to facilitate various points in time of an experience. Perhaps, that is where the deja vu plays into the various TV screens.... This advancement in the ability to affect an object at a distance is a very big deal. One must question that if in fact it is possible to move through a serious of time fractals, is it also possible to influence various points in time? Or.... Do we already??? That, is mind blowing...

 

[Harp]

Its the overlap of various points in time that can co exist.. Who's on First? One can be on first, and another on second. But not at the same 'time'...

Diamond facet reflections cast to the winter meeting-Cubs, St Louis, and the Nationals with Jason Heyward.
Overlaps co exist within time. But the Cards may have aced it.

 

[LizzieMaine]

Yastrzemski and Aparicio tried the two on third at the same time thing in 1972. Didn't work.

 

[philosophygirl78]

Ha! @LizzieMaine

 

[Harp]

... Aparicio .

Lou was a boyhood neighbor.

 

[MikeKardec]

Interesting perspective... I am not sure how it would be possible to experience two things (overlapping colors, screens) at the same time though. For a thing to have existence, it must be present. And a thing cannot be present in two places at once. Although, a thing can be present in different places at different points in 'time'. So, that alludes to the possibility of 'time travel' in a sense, with the same entity being able to facilitate various points in time of an experience. Perhaps, that is where the deja vu plays into the various TV screens.... This advancement in the ability to affect an object at a distance is a very big deal. One must question that if in fact it is possible to move through a serious of time fractals, is it also possible to influence various points in time? Or.... Do we already??? That, is mind blowing...

Tell me if I'm right here, I've forgotten a lot of physics: I was originally taught that electrons circled an atomic nucleus like little planets but a later clarification (I believe) suggested that they did not "circle" so much as pop in and out of existence in the area of those orbits. I've always wondered (the fiction writer part of me not someone who seriously considers knowing something about the scientific underpinnings of the universe) if that popping in and out of existence wasn't an indication of an intersection of (or moving through) multiple realities, possibly one for every varying electron position in the universe. There are a lot of odd things that could be explained by inhabiting more than more reality concurrently ... and of course the majority of the differences I'm talking about are mostly very small, virtually unnoticeable.

For a fun adventure into this sort of thing (one that's a bit more limited to moments of intersection, rather than constant intersection) read Larry Niven's short story, "All the Myriad Ways." I think that idea and the one I was trying to put forward are nicely represented by Lizzie's TV analogy. Except that in my version the pixels of reality would literally be over lapping and then as the Myriad Ways start to diverge noticeably in interpretation it becomes more and more like her TV losing it's convergence. A fun concept when thinking of deja vu, missing socks, differing experiences and memories of the same event, etc.

 

[philosophygirl78]

Tell me if I'm right here, I've forgotten a lot of physics: I was originally taught that electrons circled an atomic nucleus like little planets but a later clarification (I believe) suggested that they did not "circle" so much as pop in and out of existence in the area of those orbits. I've always wondered (the fiction writer part of me not someone who seriously considers knowing something about the scientific underpinnings of the universe) if that popping in and out of existence wasn't an indication of an intersection of (or moving through) multiple realities, possibly one for every varying electron position in the universe. There are a lot of odd things that could be explained by inhabiting more than more reality concurrently ... and of course the majority of the differences I'm talking about are mostly very small, virtually unnoticeable.

For a fun adventure into this sort of thing (one that's a bit more limited to moments of intersection, rather than constant intersection) read Larry Niven's short story, "All the Myriad Ways." I think that idea and the one I was trying to put forward are nicely represented by Lizzie's TV analogy. Except that in my version the pixels of reality would literally be over lapping and then as the Myriad Ways start to diverge noticeably in interpretation it becomes more and more like her TV losing it's convergence. A fun concept when thinking of deja vu, missing socks, differing experiences and memories of the same event, etc.

You are referring to Quantum Entanglement - "The paradox here is that a measurement made on either of the particles apparently collapses the state of the entire entangled system – and does so instantaneously, before any information about the measurement could have reached the other particle (assuming that information cannot travel faster than light). " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

"Things" cannot occur / be observed 'concurrently'. I believe that is where the mis nomenclature is.. IOW, multiple points in "time" can exist simultaneously, but not more than one can be experienced by a "thing" simultaneously. Otherwise, "Time" would collapse on itself.

What is Interesting is the idea that such multiple points in time have infinite possibilities and that there is a possibility with these new studies that one such point could potentially influence another without interacting physically. Here is a pretty concise news article on the recent findings: http://www.livescience.com/52811-spooky-action-is-real.html

 

[Harp]

You are referring to Quantum Entanglement -

What is Interesting is the idea that such multiple points in time have infinite possibilities...

Jason Heyward is reported to have signed with the Cubs. The Quantum Unentanglement and the possibilities are infinitely improved.

 

[Stearmen]

I can see how people believe in ghost! Today, I was riding past a park, when I noticed at the edge of a stand of trees, there was an old man sitting, with long white hair and a long ZZ Top beard, wearing overalls and an old style work hat, smoking a corn cob pipe. Didn't see if he disappeared, but, it was a little freaky!

 

[Zombie_61]

The multiverse is pretty much a mute point when it comes to physics. I do know that some guru's like Michio Kaku adhere to it, but there are many problems with this theory... Notably, Time can only move in one direction at a time. If it moves faster than the speed of light, then it would be moving backwards, which is impossible... What is interesting though is the idea of quantifiable limitless time moments (to put simply)...

But these are based on our current understanding of physics and time. Remember, it was thought impossible to move faster than the speed of sound until someone figured out how to do it.

 

[Lean'n'mean]

I asked my dog what he thought about multiverses & the idiot replied, "given that the acceleration of the universe is at the optimal speed for accretion,( i.e. if the expansion was slower, there would be insufficient energy for matter to accumulate & if the speed was greater, then all matter would be moving too fast to allow gravitational attraction ,) .. & that the chances of this happening are so astronomically small, then the only logical conclusion, is that there must be hundreds of other universes & we got lucky."
I think he's leaning more towards the Anthropic principle but as it's difficult to get any sense out of him, it's impossible to tell.

Given that time didin't exist before the Big Bang, How can we be sure that it exists today ? Isn't it just a human creation like mathematics. Just another concept to give the illusion of understanding the the world & it's suburbs.? Other life forms, both past & present, have no need to believe in time parallels, gods or super natural phenomena, so why do we ? Conceptual thought is great but enclosed in a primitive primate brain, fantasy pervades reality, if reality exists of course, or can exist on it's own without having to be percieved by human beings to acknowledge it as reality & if so, is what we concieve as reality, really reality ?

As for the missing socks enigma, I have photographic proof that it is fact the sock fairies that steal them......

P.S.
I didn't want to post this but as I am merely an avatar in an alien's video game, he made me do it.

 

[philosophygirl78]

I can see how people believe in ghost! Today, I was riding past a park, when I noticed at the edge of a stand of trees, there was an old man sitting, with long white hair and a long ZZ Top beard, wearing overalls and an old style work hat, smoking a corn cob pipe. Didn't see if he disappeared, but, it was a little freaky!

Lol!

 

[philosophygirl78]

But these are based on our current understanding of physics and time. Remember, it was thought impossible to move faster than the speed of sound until someone figured out how to do it.

Our current understanding yes... But that is the point, to continue searching, discovering, in a way that is verifiable...

 

[LizzieMaine]

Given that time didin't exist before the Big Bang, How can we be sure that it exists today ? Isn't it just a human creation like mathematics. Just another concept to give the illusion of understanding the the world & it's suburbs.? Other life forms, both past & present, have no need to believe in time parallels, gods or super natural phenomena, so why do we ? Conceptual thought is great but enclosed in a primitive primate brain, fantasy pervades reality, if reality exists of course, or can exist on it's own without having to be percieved by human beings to acknowledge it as reality & if so, is what we concieve as reality, really reality ?

How do you *know* other life forms can't or don't have the concept of gods? How does a dog view its master? How does a whale view the sea?