Pajamas in public...

[Edward]

The answer for schoolkids, for whom I agree a leveller in the form of dress is no bad thing, is of courseuniform. I worse a school uniform (the standard in the UK & Ireland) from the age of five to eighteen. This included a shirt and tie.

 

[sheeplady]

I just don't get this trend. But then when I was growing up, you got a pair of PJs for the holidays and you kept them until they were rags, because you could bet you weren't getting new PJs the next year. They were a luxury item- something that kept you warm in bed (as opposed to spending that money on something people saw). You had to make them last, patch them, and take care of them.

PJs weren't something you wore outside to ruin when they were new. They definitely were not something you wore outside after you had kept them for a couple of years and patched and rehemmed them.

But I think like most things, consumerism and waste has invaded our lives. Now PJs have to be new, designer or "in style," and acceptable to wear in public. I don't believe for one second that this trend isn't anything but an attempt by stores and designers to sell more stuff. Because now everyone is going to have to replace their whole wardrobe with new stylish PJs. Even if they don't wear them out of the house, they'll need to have new ones to wear when home.

 

[LizzieMaine]

Yes indeedy. Show the world you're a hip, individualistic rebel against the Man and his stodgy buttoned-up ways, by running to the mall and buying the same thing all the rest of the hip individualistic rebels against the Man and his stodgy buttoned-up ways are wearing this year.

 

[Miss Stella]

Yes indeedy. Show the world you're a hip, individualistic rebel against the Man and his stodgy buttoned-up ways, by running to the mall and buying the same thing all the rest of the hip individualistic rebels against the Man and his stodgy buttoned-up ways are wearing this year.

You said that soooooo very well!

 

[Feraud]

I would imagine parents who allow their children to leave the house wearing pajamas must have the lowest level of expectation for their offspring.

 

[sheeplady]

I would imagine parents who allow their children to leave the house wearing pajamas must have the lowest level of expectation for their offspring.

There was one woman who commented that if her daughter saved a few minutes from her busy schedule once in a while by wearing her pajamas (that she slept in) and could use that time for studying instead, she thinks that is ok.

I just don't get wearing something that you have slept in out of the house on a regular basis. I don't even nap in my street clothes so that they don't get wrinkled. But I also change out of my work clothes when I get home, so to save them from getting stained or damaged. I think that is part of growing up on a farm, you wear different clothes around the house than what you wear "out" in society.

 

[Flicka]

I couldn't wear anything I'd worn outside in the grimy streets in bed. Yuck.

 

[PoohBang]

I would imagine parents who allow their children to leave the house wearing pajamas must have the lowest level of expectation for their offspring.

Oddly, that is the actual measurement used by scientist...

The degree of sleepwear allowed to be worn in public in relation to the level of expectations towards offspring. Or in scientific terms the "SWEL" (sleep-wear-expectation-level)

In 1987 there was a study done in Berlin by Dr. Hans Yeuller that showed that parents that let their children wear pajamas out in public had an expectation of their children 48% less then Parents who let their children wear evening wear in public. And he followed up a study in 1997 of those same children and 82% of those pajama wearing children now have low end jobs and spend most of their time on internet forums, while 93% of the children that wore evening wear went on to finish college and all work for the United Nations.

Now this study was done in Berlin so it might different for North America but it is interesting.

 

[nihil]

Priceless

 

[Noirblack]

If I'm recalling correctly one of the scenes early in The Big Lebowsky features The Dude late at night in a grocery story buying a quart of milk in PJs and a robe. It was funny at the time because of the absurdity of the situation. It's sad to think that this is now considered acceptable.

 

[HadleyH]

The truth is that only two sectors of society can wear pajamas on the street, the very,very rich and extravagant like the aristocrats in
Kenya and the Riviera did in the 1920s and the very, very poor who don't have any other clothes.

 

[Feraud]

Let's not forget the third group - mafia bosses attempting to look insane to avoid federal indictment.
When I see this current crop of kiddies trodding around in their jammies I don't imagine their motiavations are even that creative. Next it'll be diapers and rubber nipples in the mouths of the sartorially challenged.

 

[HadleyH]

Let's not forget the third group - mafia bosses attempting to look insane to avoid federal indictment.
When I see this current crop of kiddies trodding around in their jammies I don't imagine their motiavations are even that creative. Next it'll be diapers and rubber nipples in the mouths of the sartorially challenged.

yes........... only 3 sectors of society: the very very, very rich the very,very poor ....and the losers *yucky*

lollol

 

[Connery]

Here are some fashion pyjamas/pajamas from the 1930's. “Worn since the war by both sexes as casual, indoor clothing, pajamas appeared at the beaches and casinos in 1929 and received their popular name in the summer of 1931. Ridiculed, sung about, and prohibited by the church, pajamas were finally accepted when the courtiers thought to feminize them and erase any hint of ambiguity.”

From the 1933 Sears catalog

"Le pyjama de plage of the early 1930s—beach pajamas—were worn by all the best dressed women vacationing in Monte Carlo and in Cannes, started a slow, chic movement towards casual dressing in public"

 

[HadleyH]

Here are some fashion pyjamas/pajamas from the 1930's. “Worn since the war by both sexes as casual, indoor clothing, pajamas appeared at the beaches and casinos in 1929 and received their popular name in the summer of 1931. Ridiculed, sung about, and prohibited by the church, pajamas were finally accepted when the courtiers thought to feminize them and erase any hint of ambiguity.”

^^^ Absolutely!!!!



wear pajamas wear nightgowns whatever .... (as long as one belongs the right social set! ...and even if one doesn't but if one has a sense of style! )

in the 20s 30s this poor woman must have been ...omg .. so, so,.insulted LOL

 

[Connery]

^^^
More...

 

[HadleyH]

^^^

The Riviera in the 20s and 30s rocks! :eusa_clap:eusa_clap

Even for nowadays it would have been too wild! People today are nothing like in the Crazy Years... like in the1920s! All that is gone



EDIT to say .......... one has to belong to the right social set my dears! that's the only thing... [huh]

 

[Bluebird Marsha]

Help me out here. I thought I had seen references "somewhere" that pajamas were worn in public during the 20's -40's, and the above pictures seem to reinforce that idea that they were. But is there an overlap in terminology happening here? I know that "leisure suits" and "play suits" were being worn, and from what I remember, they looked a bit like what we would call pajamas. And those pictures on the Riviera kinda look like those outfits. More stylish than what would actually be worn to bed though. I also remember reading a poll from a popular magazine of the 30s, and one of things the men said they hated was their wife wearing pajamas to bed. Which is all leaving me very confused.

Did the 20's-40's blur the line between bed wear/slopping or entertaining around the house wear/resort wear? I originally assumed the guys were objecting to women's night clothes that weren't ... friendly. Now I'm thinking that wearing pj's to bed was the equivalent of wearing sweatpants and a hoodie to bed.

Like i said, I'm sooo confused!

 

[HadleyH]

^^^

like I said .... never mind anything ... you got money lots of it?.. you got style?.... that's all that counted then ... and still does.... the rest is unimportant... it doesn't mind at all Bluebird Marsha.... why even worry about it?

 

[V.C. Brunswick]

From British Pathe comes a preview of the latest swimwear and beach pyjamas from 1933.

[video=youtube;ZtNdgQ-_VpY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtNdgQ-_VpY[/video]