OTHER THAN eBAY Hats: Victories, Defeats, Gripes & Items of Interest

[BobHufford]

A derby of all hats!

And a rare riding derby with a short crown and vent holes. Very close to my size to boot.

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

This is not how an over 100-year-old derby is supposed to be shipped Goodwill. com!

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Ouch.
They need to change their name to Badfaith.

 

[Blare]

This is not how an over 100-year-old derby is supposed to be shipped Goodwill. com!

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[steur]

And a rare riding derby with a short crown and vent holes. Very close to my size to boot.

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Could it be a clerical hat?

 

[BobHufford]

Could it be a clerical hat?

That was my first thought, but the vents threw me. When I searched for something similar I did run across another low crown, vented hat that was in a museum and described as a "riding derby". I really don't know for sure. Wish I could find it in an old Stetson catalog.

The Wood Bros. could have sold a minister's hat.

1904:

 

[Rmccamey]

This is not how an over 100-year-old derby is supposed to be shipped Goodwill. com!

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My heart is breaking!!!

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Once it molts I think there’s a nice hat here:

 

[deadlyhandsome]

 

[Bill Hughes]

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I was following this one but the brim is just too narrow for me.

 

[Rmccamey]

Wow-wee, that's a nice one!

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[deadlyhandsome]

I was following this one but the brim is just too narrow for me.

I’m with you preferring the wider brims. I like the style of Playboy but the wider brimmed 1940s hats are so much more my style.

 

[BobHufford]

This is not how an over 100-year-old derby is supposed to be shipped Goodwill. com!

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It’s worse than I thought.

It does make it easy to check the tags:

Of course it doesn’t fit.

And I can steam the crown back open without fear of shrinking the sweat.

 

[jeff]

Hunh.... I've not seen anything like that before.

Did the felt split along the stitching for the sweatband?

Or is this a two-piece construction bowler?

 

[BobHufford]

Or is this a two-piece construction bowler?

I think it was two pieces, but I'll defer the the bowler/derby experts on how these things were made. If it fit me I might consider having a duplex made (with a Panama crown).

 

[deadlyhandsome]

I think it was two pieces, but I'll defer the the bowler/derby experts on how these things were made. If it fit me I might consider having a duplex made (with a Panama crown).

I’d love to see a duplex derby!

 

[Frunobulax]

It’s worse than I thought.

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It does make it easy to check the tags:

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Of course it doesn’t fit.

And I can steam the crown back open without fear of shrinking the sweat.

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Ugh.

 

[Blare]

A pair of Marathon…. Gotta be careful. They are starting to multiply

and a cool hatbox to boot

 

[deadlyhandsome]

A pair of Marathon…. Gotta be careful. They are starting to multiply

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and a cool hatbox to boot

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Nice, Joe! I was hoping those would show up here. Multiplying hats is a phenomenon with no solution.

 

[Blare]

Nice, Joe! I was hoping those would show up here. Multiplying hats is a phenomenon with no solution.

Thanks Brent. Looking forward to their arrival…. Definitely something different. Had them on my radar and Bob sending me a link as well confirmed for me to dig in on these.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

DEFEAT.

As soon as I touched it I knew something wasn’t right. The felt is rough and felt like wool. I’ve never had a Stetson Clear Nutria before so I thought maybe this was how the felt is. No labels under the sweatband and the sweatband has been re-sewn and it’s about 45 degrees off so the ribbon that belongs at the seam is on the side of the hat. The gap in the sweatband looks to be caused by using a sweatband that is too small for the current hat size.

My working hypothesis is someone salvaged a sweatband from a Stetson Clear Nutria and crudely sewed in into this current hat of unknown make or material. Bummer.