Old BELSTAFF Leather Trench - Any help identifying?

[VintageTQ]

Picked up this really cool old Leather Trench made by Belstaff today. Never seen anything like it before, im guessing its pretty early Belstaff. Has large mouton fur collar and a nice cotton/wool lining.
Anybody seen one before? or any ide what era it might have come from?

Any help would be much appreciated

Regards

 

[John Lever]

It's a copy of an early flying coat and I would say that it's rare and probably valuable.
Good find

 

[esteban68]

Hmm very interesting, if I didn't know better I'd say it was a direct copy of the Swedish winter coat one often sees, maybe Belstaff bought them in and badged them up or the Belstaff tag has been sewn in later?
A photo of the back and with the collar turned up would help too.
Very nice coat either way.

 

[VintageTQ]

Cheers for the comments, very interesting thoughts..

Here are a couple more pics

 

[esteban68]

Cheers, I am in no doubt that it IS a Swedish leather coat, whether it was made for Belstaff or the label sewn in later by an unscruplulous dealer I don't know ....as I said earlier it's still a good and fairly valuable coat, the Swedish coats often go for £100 plus!

 

[dr greg]

At the risk of being pedantic, that's NOT a trench-coat, very nice tho

 

[VintageTQ]

At the risk of being pedantic, that's NOT a trench-coat, very nice tho

Really?..... What would it be classed as then? Does it have to have a belt to be a trench?

 

[Jeff M]

It has to be something Marlowe would wear in the trenches of WWI, rater than Baron von Richtoffen in his Triplane.

 

[dr greg]

I refer you to the sticky at the top of this forum. There are overcoats, raincoats, flying jackets and so on, but a trench coat is a very specific garment.

 

[Jeff M]

Here you go;

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?21912-TRENCH-COAT-REFERENCE-PHOTOS-(1)

The most obvious..."Trench coats" were not made out of leather, nor did they have mouton collars.

 

[Jeff M]

Question that may have been answered somewhere here in the past...but I'll be darned if I can find it.
Why do some trench coat designs have that extra flap (looks like a wind flap) over the right shoulder? To cover the top button and help keep rain/wind out if you button the coat all the way up?

 

[FWCollins]

Hi is this the same as the one on eBay now item 230877762628?

I agree with the thoughts of Estaban68 that it looks Swedish. Belstaff founders also had an Army and Navy outlet at first so possible they were re labelling surplus under their logo? Nice coat either way!