Ok, so some things in the golden era were not too cool...

[Retro_GI_Jane]

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Guy Lombardo, anyone?

Yes, please.

[video=youtube;aHKCPorcBvk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHKCPorcBvk[/video]

I had a lot of his stuff played at my wedding reception. It still makes me smile when my mother tells me how she and my grandfather danced together singing along to the songs.

 

[Retro_GI_Jane]

Born here in London. Scarcely remembered though. All there is left is a bridge "named" after him. A few years ago there was some kind of squabble between the estate and the city about a tiny museum near the park (Wonderland Gardens) where Lombardo played many a New Year's Eve. The Dance Hall burned down, the museum closed, time marches on. :S

That's sad. I recently discovered a resort that my husband and I frequented here in the US when we first were married was a venue for Guy Lombardo. I can't wait til we go back so I can bask in the knowledge that we are standing where he did.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Yes, please.

Yeah, I'm long enough in the tooth to remember when his band would play "Auld Lang Syne" at every Times Square New Year's Eve.

 

[Atticus Finch]

Respectfully, Lizzie, even if one accepts this article as being totally without bias, it does not say that schools are more segregated than ever. It says that we have not reached a goal of total integration and, in fact, there is eveidence that we are moving away from that goal. But it doesn't say that schools are more segerated than before Brown v Board or even as segregated and they were in 1960...when I started school.

And I was happy to see the article conclude that rural and small town schools now are more integrated that larger, city school districts.

AF

 

[Retro_GI_Jane]

Yeah, I'm long enough in the tooth to remember when his band would play "Auld Lang Syne" at every Times Square New Year's Eve.

To hear him play in person I would have loved to have experienced. Most people will hear undoubtedly his version of Auld Lang Syne numerous times in their lifetime and never know it was him or *who* he was beyond that rendition and I feel a little bit of pity for that...for the listener, not for Guy.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

I recently discovered a resort that my husband and I frequented here in the US when we first were married was a venue for Guy Lombardo.

The Jones Beach Marine Theater, on Long Island? That was "the house that Robert Moses built".

 

[Retro_GI_Jane]

The Jones Beach Marine Theater, on Long Island? That was "the house that Robert Moses built".

Actually you're too far north...the resort I mentioned is out in the Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri, the Lodge of the Four Seasons.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

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Ah, I see! Thanks!


Here's some more information on Guy Lombardo and the Jones Beach Marine Theater:


"The wooden Jones Beach Marine Theater was erected by Robert Moses, New York's so-called 'Master Builder', in 1930 to present circuses, water shows and fireworks. It was rebuilt in 1952, expanding its seating capacity to 8,200 with a 104-foot-wide stage with revolving center, an underwater tunnel and a 100-foot wide lagoon.


After experiencing a few program failures, Robert Moses turned to famous orchestra leader Guy Lombardo for assistance. From 1954 to 1977, Lombardo was the promoter and executive producer for the Jones Beach Theater, earning many millions of dollars in the process. Visitors enjoyed such shows as 'The Arabian Nights', 'Fiddler on the Roof', 'South Pacific', 'Showboat' and other classics at the open-air venue.


It was the end of an era in entertainment at the beach after Lombardo died in 1977. Promoter Ron Delsner took over in 1983, replacing gentle Broadway-style shows with rock concerts."

 

[Atticus Finch]

-- read up on bath salts first, though.

No need to. Our legislature made bathsalts illegal last year and I've been swamped with bathsalt cases since.

AF

 

[John in Covina]

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Here's some more information on Guy Lombardo and the Jones Beach Marine Theater: "The wooden Jones Beach Marine Theater was erected by Robert Moses, New York's so-called 'Master Builder', in 1930 to present circuses, water shows and fireworks. It was rebuilt in 1952, expanding its seating capacity to 8,200 with a 104-foot-wide stage with revolving center, an underwater tunnel and a 100-foot wide lagoon. After experiencing a few program failures, Robert Moses turned to famous orchestra leader Guy Lombardo for assistance. From 1954 to 1977, Lombardo was the promoter and executive producer for the Jones Beach Theater, earning many millions of dollars in the process. Visitors enjoyed such shows as 'The Arabian Nights', 'Fiddler on the Roof', 'South Pacific', 'Showboat' and other classics at the open-air venue. It was the end of an era in entertainment at the beach after Lombardo died in 1977. Promoter Ron Delsner took over in 1983, replacing gentle Broadway-style shows with rock concerts."

As someone that worked several summers for the Toll Authority as a bridge toll taker for the bridges that lead to Jones Beach, I can say I recall handing out many area maps to drivers to show them how to get to the theater. As an ethno-centricity a portion of people would ask where the Jones Beach Thearter was, some would ask where the (name the musical playing) was and a significant number of people with a heavy Brooklynese type accent as seen in a number of films would demand to know: 'wair da Guy Lombado Show was!" These people tended to drive Cadillacs.

 

[PoohBang]

If it's on the internet, it's a fact!

 

[Marc Chevalier]

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Wow, John in Covina! Were you working there when Robert Moses was still in charge? The Toll Authority treated him like a god.

 

[LizzieMaine]

That's what they were manufacturing three houses up the street from me. I don't recall ever sharing the neighborhood with a drug lab until recently -- and this is the second one in ten years. You can cite crime stats all you want, but it's pretty hard to convince me that things are improving when I can look out my kitchen window and see plenty of evidence to the contrary.

 

[AtomicEraTom]

lol I got the visual!

a significant number of people with a heavy Brooklynese type accent as seen in a number of films would demand to know: 'wair da Guy Lombado Show was!" These people tended to drive Cadillacs.

 

[John in Covina]

. Wow, John in Covina! Were you working there when Robert Moses was still in charge? The Toll Authority treated him like a god.

I actually worked for the NY Thruway Authority and was not related to the Parks part. Most of us thought he was a great builder but a tyrant. By the 1970's his reputation was shipping pretty low.

 

[Atticus Finch]

That's what they were manufacturing three houses up the street from me. I don't recall ever sharing the neighborhood with a drug lab until recently -- and this is the second one in ten years. You can cite crime stats all you want, but it's pretty hard to convince me that things are improving when I can look out my kitchen window and see plenty of evidence to the contrary.

I understand what you are saying. Without doubt, my case load is much larger than it was twenty years ago. But I think what is confounding us both is that total crime is rising steadily with the increase in our population...so, yes, there is more total crime. But the crime rate...that is, the number of crimes per capita...is actually falling.

AF

 

[PoohBang]

I understand what you are saying. Without doubt, my case load is much larger than it was twenty years ago. But I think what is confounding us both is that total crime is rising steadily with the increase in our population...so, yes, there is more total crime. But the crime rate...that is, the number of crimes per capita...is actually falling.

AF

Did anyone hear that interesting story on NPR about the crime rates falling and possible causes? One interesting cause was Roe vs. Wade.

 

[LizzieMaine]

Until you, or someone you know, is robbed, attacked, or otherwise the victim of it.

Our population here is *declining.* In 1950, there were nearly 10,000 people in this town, and a fraction of the crime -- the entire police department consisted of three men. Now, the population is under 8,000 and dropping steadily -- and we've got a dozen men on our police force and they still can't keep up. It's something more than statistics at work.

 

[AtomicEraTom]

Sounds like they really need to clean up shop in your town!

 

[LizzieMaine]

A lot of it is simply the backwash of Globalization. Our manufacturing and fishing industries were utterly destroyed by foreign competition in the '80s and '90s, and we've never recovered. All we have now is service-sector jobs that don't pay a living wage unless you have three or four of them (one of my concession people has *five*) -- so you have a substantial number of people who figure they're going to get the shaft no matter what, and they feel like they have no better way to numb themselves to the pain and frustration than by stewing their brains in booze and drugs. And lucky us, there are plenty of "entrepreneurs" around waiting to supply them.