Here's the custom beaver in pecan. 5-3/4" open crown, then a center dent and moderate side dents to start out. Dimensional brim of 2-5/8" front and back with the sides at 2-1/2", ribbon, bow and brim all used a dark brown ribbon. I love this hat. Super nice hand to it and although it's harder to photograph with the sheen I get from the indoor and meager outdoor light, it really is a nice, rich, deep looking brown with undertones of blue and copper. Just 9 weeks start to finish, which includes the wait time.