New York Fashion Week

[Geronimo]

1st one, good. 2nd one... something's off. Maybe it's the catwalk zombie stare.
I can't really say. I guess the suit is too fancy, IMO, for the hat. This might be the one situation where a military-style beret would actually look good. A hat with a crown to it would look better.

Third, not bad. Fourth, can't get past the shoes. Fifth, another not bad.
I still object to the abuse of good denim, though. Seems too poseurish. However, that is coming from a landlubber who is known to run around in a yachting cap, so take from that what you will. lol

 

[HadleyH]

This is cute. I would wear it in a minute.*


*Not for what this COUTURE ensemble costs but the look, yes.

((( Viola ))) Yes!!!!! :cheers1:

 

[Tomasso]

This is cute. I would wear it in a minute.

I like it too. Though it's hardly a new look.

 

[BinkieBaumont]

"In the Antipodes I am never sure if we are one season Ahead or Behind, being the start of Spring here, the Shops are full of the "Safari Look" which tends to come around every ten years just as does "The Naval look" the "Peasant Look" "The "Army look"....................., im sure designers have a spreadsheet that tells them when we, as consumers are likely to throw garments out, a Klaxon goes off, and they know its safe to reinvent them the following season, too sick making!""

 

[Foofoogal]

im sure designers have a spreadsheet that tells them when we, as consumers are likely to throw garments out, a Klaxon goes off, and they know its safe to reinvent them the following season, too sick making

:eusa_clap It is amazing how easily the masses are manipulated.

I personally can see a time or place for the OP photos (even the masculine suits on the women and the outfit Viola just posted last from the original I would wear. I don't do skinny jeans so last is out.

 

[Flitcraft]

My Favorite Girl in Guy's Garb...

I've only dated two ladies who could make this look work, but wow! when it does, it works!

 

[Foofoogal]

I would like to know more about Fashion Week. What else was there we could find interesting?

http://www.mbfashionweek.com/newyork/spring2010/designers/ralph_lauren/17.html

How about this? This is girly and masculine.

http://www.mbfashionweek.com/newyork/spring2010/designers/max_azria/index.html

 

[kamikat]

Ralph Lauren’s Blues

http://runway.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/ralph-laurens-blues/


While not referring directly to the Great Depression, Ralph Lauren cited hard times as the inspiration for this morning’s spring 2010 showing of faded jeans, bib overalls

This is the main reason why I think this collection won't work. Couture collections are generally meant to inspire fantasy. Sure, some VERY wealthy will by from the couture collection, but mostly it's designed to create buzz for the designer's other collections. If he's using the poor economic situation as inspiration for a fantasy, no one's gonna buy and it might turn off people from his more marketable (as in price points) collections. When most people are scrimping and saving, they don't want to look like they are.

 

[kamikat]

I have experienced queerbashing and street harassment for dressing in masculine and queer-coded clothing. If blurring those lines were really so rampant in modern conceptions of fashion and gender in mainstream society, that kind of reaction wouldn't be so prevalent in my daily life!

When I say that I don't like men's fashions on women, in my mind at least, it's different from women who might not be feminine or dress in frilly dresses. To me, it's a specific high fashion/couture trend. A model with loads of make-up, long hair, wearing a men's suit ironically. To me, it's a message of "men think women look cute in their clothes", similar to the common opinion that men think women look cute wearing their shirts and nothing else. It's another message of male designers telling women what they should wear and how they should look. If woman chooses to wear non-feminine clothing as self-expression, more power to her. She's no less a woman for it. To deep, dark secret of the fashion industry is that if you are male and like girls, you won't get far in the industry. I know people in who used to be in the industry and had to get out for that very reason.

 

[Fletch]

I've only dated two ladies who could make this look work, but wow! when it does, it works!

I wish more tried it. Tomboy plus elegant doesn't add up these days.

To deep, dark secret of the fashion industry is that if you are male and like girls, you won't get far in the industry. I know people in who used to be in the industry and had to get out for that very reason.

I don't exactly see the connection between that and women dressing as men, but it makes you think. I did know a couple of women designers in NY who were so in tune with that community, they even married ghey guys. One of them (a former classmate of mine - so was his bride) wasn't even in the business. That marriage broke up fast.

I dunno: is it ok to talk about teh ghey as a culture, or does it just mean politics and hate speech to the bartenders? Because it does connect with an interest in history and material culture. I have ghey friends, and not all of them agree with this, but there do seem to be areas of culture that are not explicitly sexual, or even feminine, but are considered ghey male "territory."

Example: historic building preservation. The thesis in this book is that there is some sort of "history gene" that is close to the assumed "ghey gene." As a thesis, it doesn't smell right to me, but it's fairly well reasoned (starting from a position that masculinity is about tearing down and building new to "leave a mark"). And ideas that promote group solidarity may gain acceptance.

Here's a 10' pole in case anybody wants to touch this topic. And no, I'm not trolling. lol

 

[Carlisle Blues]

More from fashion week

CUSTO BARCELONA

DUCKIE BROWN

 

[Carlisle Blues]

Couture collections are generally meant to inspire fantasy. If he's using the poor economic situation as inspiration for a fantasy, no one's gonna buy and it might turn off people from his more marketable (as in price points) collections. When most people are scrimping and saving, they don't want to look like they are.

Exactly, with few exceptions, I really like his RL's Offerings in denim. I occasionally dress the way I used to when I practiced. However, the uniform of the day usually includes jeans. I enjoy looking at outfits bit the price is too high, no matter what the economic climate is. I shop at Nordstrom's The Rack. I do not want to pay full price when I do not have to.

However, under no circumstances will I pay $800 for jeans.

 

[Fletch]

It's only a movie

Lauren is probably not doing "hard times" as a fantasy vision. His vision is more probably "movies about hard times." You can evoke almost anything if you do it as homage to the screen. The 1930s are particularly good for that because our picture of that era is almost completely movie-dominated.

 

[Carlisle Blues]

Lauren is probably not doing "hard times" as a fantasy vision. His vision is more probably "movies about hard times." You can evoke almost anything if you do it as homage to the screen. The 1930s are particularly good for that because our picture of that era is almost completely movie-dominated.

Your statement is plausible, nevertheless, whether it be screen or reality RL is attempting to recreate a style of dress that speaks to plain simple values and hard work. At least that is what it evokes in my mind. I like it.


This was posted in Outerwear Denim Jackets today

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?p=869782#post869782

Hey guys... After looking at the RL show during NYC Fashion Week I got to thinking that I really, really, really need some vintage denim jackets to go with my new/old newsboy (thanks Marc!) and was wondering what combos people here have put together.

AND, Baron >> Could you fix the broken photo links, please? Thanks!!

 

[Viola]

I think Fletch is right, I think its more "look like George Clooney in 'O Brother Where Art Thou'" i.e. roguish, ironic, unstuffy, not actually poor. It's the same as really really expensive "rustic" or "industrial" furniture.

 

[Mysterious Mose]

My girlfriend was doing this look 4 months ago

I was doing this look 23 years ago.

M.M.

 

[LizzieMaine]

I think Fletch is right, I think its more "look like George Clooney in 'O Brother Where Art Thou'" i.e. roguish, ironic, unstuffy, not actually poor. It's the same as really really expensive "rustic" or "industrial" furniture.

"They ain't even old-timey!!!"

 

[Viola]

I ain't po', I'm authentic.

 

[Feraud]

"They ain't even old-timey!!!"

lol Funny!

 

[Tomasso]

Yea,I have friends that do the designer ragamuffin look (not cheap) ; But just in case people might mistake them for homeless, they wear a 20K wristwatch........