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New Alexanders Halfbelt

Plumbline

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Guys the storm cuff comment wasn't related to this jacket ... a button cuff doesn't / shouldn't have storm cuffs in general .. it was more my general hatred of storm cuffs. The only jacket I have with them is my ANJ-4 and if i'd bought it new it would have had NONE.
 

Sloan1874

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Actually, that's a good point. Does anyone have any idea when storm cuffs first appeared (I love them btw, but that's a geographic thing:D) on jackets?
 

ForestForTheTrees

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How about this for some controversy:

I personally don't care at all for button cuffs on any jacket with a zipper front. Nor do I care for zipped sleeves on a button front jacket. Either strikes me as if someone fell asleep at the wheel - not good.

If that sort of thing does not matter to the potential customer, then this is truly a fine looking jacket.
 

Fanch

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Sloan or Plumbline, if either of you guys live where I do, you would be ripping out storm cuffs with your fingernails.:D
 

Fanch

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How about this for some controversy:

I personally don't care at all for button cuffs on any jacket with a zipper front. Nor do I care for zipped sleeves on a button front jacket. Either strikes me as if someone fell asleep at the wheel - not good.

If that sort of thing does not matter to the potential customer, then this is truly a fine looking jacket.

Actually, ForestForTheTrees probably makes a valid point about (not) matching button cuffs with zippers, which is one reason the Stuart and Teamster jackets work so well with all buttons.
 

Plumbline

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Man ... it takes so long to get the buttons workable ... especially with FQHH .... It's like trying to push a baby back inside it's mother trying to do them feckers up on a new jacket. I wore my barnstormer for about a year without buttoning it up ... and the second year I only ever did up the two middle buttons ..... don't get me started on the belt which has been fastened round the back of the jacket for 6 years and NEVER undone )!!!!!

I'm afraid I'm a zip man by preference ( one of the best inventions of the 20th century IMHO) ...... I LOVE the look of all buttons ... and I don't mind them on jackets like the mariner or VDR or Barnstormer ..... but on a halfbelt or short jacket I tend to avoid ( the Raddjakke sp. was my worst nightmare :) ) An A-1 looks amazing ... but buttons AND elasticated cuffs ..... JUST SAY NO :) ( it would normally be nice soft capeskin though so probably not an issue).

In general I hardly ever undo cuff buttons ... perhaps that's form over function .... or if I do it's because I need to turn the sleeves up to make the jacket fit and I never do them up again :) :) :)

:)
 

Edward

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Actually, that's a good point. Does anyone have any idea when storm cuffs first appeared (I love them btw, but that's a geographic thing:D) on jackets?

I'm not entirely sure, but they're far from new. I have a French leather trenchcoat, probably 30s/40s design, but not sure exactly... That has something along those lines. I believe they've been in Barbour's waxed country jackets for years. I do find it amusing to read how unpopular they are in some corners, especially among some A2 fans. They're really just shy A2 cuffs.... ;)

Depends what you want, though. I like my for cold breezes, but there are those warmer days when they keep too much heat in. Days like those I wear a Wested Raiders jacket in goat... Specifically bought less because it's an Indy, more because I wanted a no-knits, light leather jacket that can be worn in Summer.

How about this for some controversy:

I personally don't care at all for button cuffs on any jacket with a zipper front. Nor do I care for zipped sleeves on a button front jacket. Either strikes me as if someone fell asleep at the wheel - not good.

If that sort of thing does not matter to the potential customer, then this is truly a fine looking jacket.

I agree zipped sleeves would look odd with a button front, but the reverse I like, I suppose because it has been so common or so long it doesn't look at all odd to me.
 

thor

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Actually, that's a good point. Does anyone have any idea when storm cuffs first appeared (I love them btw, but that's a geographic thing:D) on jackets?

I know storm cuffs were a standard specification on US Navy M-444/445 sheepskin flight jackets dating back to about 1940. Not sure when they first appeared in civilian style jackets.
 
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I hate storm cuffs, except in one jacket I have - a RRL "Deck Jacket" look-alike. I wear large watches, and it's mostly warmer here in SoCal, so I don't buy jackets with storm cuffs. If you live in the cold, I can see the advantages though...
 

Worf

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Man ... it takes so long to get the buttons workable ... especially with FQHH .... It's like trying to push a baby back inside it's mother trying to do them feckers up on a new jacket. I wore my barnstormer for about a year without buttoning it up ... and the second year I only ever did up the two middle buttons ..... don't get me started on the belt which has been fastened round the back of the jacket for 6 years and NEVER undone


Preach on brother. In FQHH buttons are a form of medieval torture. Zips on a new jacket are bad enough buttons yegad and I'm a bass player! If I were just "John Q. Public" I'd be an arthritic mess.

Worf
 

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