Neck pain?

[Loncster]

Hey yall. I've noticed something with almost all of my aeros. I always get neck pain when i'm wearing my aero. The pain is unbearable. I started to think that there are some problems with the measurements or the way they were made, A jacket is supposed to rest on your shoulders.. But not neck?
Just wondering if any of yall had this issue before?

 

[MrProper]

The neckline at the back is approx. 1 cm higher with Aero than with other manufacturers (which is why I need 1 cm more back length than with others, because this is measured from the collar seam).
If there is a little tension, e.g. due to high armholes, this puts more pressure on the neck.
That's my theory.
I had this with a jacket whose base size was actually too small for me. The armpits pulled the jacket down at the front and then there was pressure on the neck. I don't normally have this with other Aeros. Rarely when I'm sitting for a long time. But my posture is different there too.

 

[Canuck Panda]

Many of Aero's models has the "shirt" style collar. They're not the most comfortable especially in stiffer leather. There are models that are not the shirt style collar too.

The brown jacket has the shirt style collar where the neck hole is forward rotated by almost an inch or 2mm. The black jacket has what I would consider jacket style collar where the neck hole is the normal standing position.

It's pretty easy to spot which kind of neck line a jacket has. If the back neck line makes a smile shape you are safe. Circle or frown neck line usually indicates its a shirt style collar and is rotated foward.

If you are buying the jackets used you can also see how it hangs on the hanger. If the collar is wrapping up the hanger then it's most likely a shirt style collar. If there is a gap between the hanger and jacket collar then you're safe.
EDIT*** Jacket on the left would have the "shirt" collar, middle and right jackets are the "jacket" collar.

Just move the uncomfortable jackets along. It will fit someone with a different shape just fine.

 

[onstar]

Many of Aero's models has the "shirt" style collar. They're not the most comfortable especially in stiffer leather. There are models that are not the shirt style collar too.

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The brown jacket has the shirt style collar where the neck hole is forward rotated by almost an inch or 2mm. The black jacket has what I would consider jacket style collar where the neck hole is the normal standing position.

It's pretty easy to spot which kind of neck line a jacket has. If the back neck line makes a smile shape you are safe. Circle or frown neck line usually indicates its a shirt style collar and is rotated foward.

If you are buying the jackets used you can also see how it hangs on the hanger. If the collar is wrapping up the hanger then it's most likely a shirt style collar. If there is a gap between the hanger and jacket collar then you're safe.
EDIT*** Jacket on the left would have the "shirt" collar, middle and right jackets are the "jacket" collar.
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Just move the uncomfortable jackets along. It will fit someone with a different shape just fine.

How can you tell smile or frown face? from the back or front?

And yes OP, i have problems with the neck. You can check my old posts

 

[bigmanbigtruck]

How can you tell smile or frown face? from the back or front?

And yes OP, i have problems with the neck. You can check my old posts

 

[JMax]

All of my jackets frown…oh nooooo.

 

[bigmanbigtruck]

All of my jackets frown…oh nooooo.

Never skip........ neck day?

 

[Canuck Panda]

Shirt collars isn’t the end of the world. There are many different ways of doing them. The old Cal uses the butterflied seams which won’t be as bulky so you don’t really feel that seam as much. Aero uses a fold over then top stitched seam which is double the thickness there, but there are other jackets that are similar as well. In this case you could just fold the collar more backwards like I did, it’ll push that thicker seam towards the outside. You can start the day with a frown but sort of smiling by the days end…

 

[bigmanbigtruck]

You can start the day with a frown but sort of smiling by the days end…

the TFL-esque way of turning that frown upside down

 

[JMax]

Never skip........ neck day?
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That dude can wear the heck out of an Aero.

Me too I guess, never experienced neck pain because of a jacket. But I’ve always carried backpacks, gear, slings, etc. Extra weight on the shoulders and neck is my norm.

 

[MrProper]

In this case you could just fold the collar more backwards like I did

Me too. I do this because I think the collar looks better.

 

[Marc mndt]

Many of Aero's models has the "shirt" style collar. They're not the most comfortable especially in stiffer leather. There are models that are not the shirt style collar too.

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The brown jacket has the shirt style collar where the neck hole is forward rotated by almost an inch or 2mm. The black jacket has what I would consider jacket style collar where the neck hole is the normal standing position.

It's pretty easy to spot which kind of neck line a jacket has. If the back neck line makes a smile shape you are safe. Circle or frown neck line usually indicates its a shirt style collar and is rotated foward.

If you are buying the jackets used you can also see how it hangs on the hanger. If the collar is wrapping up the hanger then it's most likely a shirt style collar. If there is a gap between the hanger and jacket collar then you're safe.
EDIT*** Jacket on the left would have the "shirt" collar, middle and right jackets are the "jacket" collar.
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Just move the uncomfortable jackets along. It will fit someone with a different shape just fine.

This may or may not be true for Aero patterns but stating it as a general rule is just total nonsense. My original Buco J-24 and Durable mc jackets have the 'shirt style' collar. The leather is unskived and no 'butterfly seam' construction either yet they're amongst the most comfortable jackets you can find. These are just two examples, I can give you many.

 

[Monitor]

Lol, I was about to say the same thing.

@Canuck Panda, I'm sorry & I know you're trying contribute but that collar theory of yours is... No.

These are all shirt collars that you have posted. The downward curvature you are seeing at the back of the collar means that the collar is lower & thus fits closer to the neck, tighter and lays flatter than the straight collar. This type of collar is called shaped collar.
So, following your theory, this type of collar should be less comfortable than the regular, straight collar but it's not. Neither type is as the shape of the collar itself has nothing to do with how comfortable it will be because it's not the top of the collar that pushes into the neck - it's the angle of the collar combined, in equal measure, with a wearers posture, as @MrProper noted.

 

[TartuWolf]

I can also comment that if I pull my shoulders back ("correct" posture) then the neck pressure is alleviated, while it is definitely noticeable if I slump. Wearing a scarf also helps.

 

[Canuck Panda]

Hey yall. I've noticed something with almost all of my aeros. I always get neck pain when i'm wearing my aero. The pain is unbearable. I started to think that there are some problems with the measurements or the way they were made, A jacket is supposed to rest on your shoulders.. But not neck?
Just wondering if any of yall had this issue before?

The neck pain is unfortunate. My best advise is to fold the collar more towards the back and give it another try. Or pull the back down and give it another try. They worked for me and I hope it will work for you. It doesn't hurt to try. It is free.

The brown jacket is a Sheene on Aero's sale page. The blue jacket is my Sheene Man. I folded the collar really towards the back. This spreads the collar out and makes it looks like airplane wings in the front but I kinda dig it and the collar floats around the neck and does not create any pressure, not matter how I move my arms , the jacket just sits on my body and the collar "floats", I have good space and room between my neck and the collar.

I was organizing my aviator jackets the other day and noticed my two Aero's are comparatively shorter in the front because I subconsciously pull the back down so the jacket sits more towards the back. This also works. I will get to folding those two collars when I get to like the Sheene Man and the two tone Daytona.

The two Aeros are the two on the far right, compared to the other three jackets on the right, I wear the Aeros tilted to the back. So the front is a bit tilted up but I don't mind that look either. And just tugging the jacket back down is comfortable enough for me to wear those two jackets, and I hope this small change can work for you too. In the worst case where these two methods don't work for you you always have the option to sell and move on.

Give it a try they might just work.

 

[jacketjunkie]

The Aero neck pain debate has been going on for forever, many theories are out there as to what causes it. For all I am concerned, the exact why does not matter, fact is I can wear jackets made from equally heavy or heavier hides from other makers and have no such issues, so it definitely is a pattern issue. Some bodies fit into Aero jackets, some don‘t. If I were you, I‘d call it lessons learned, move on my Aeros and buy something different instead.

 

[jacketjunkie]

The neck pain is unfortunate. My best advise is to fold the collar more towards the back and give it another try. Or pull the back down and give it another try. They worked for me and I hope it will work for you. It doesn't hurt to try. It is free.

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The brown jacket is a Sheene on Aero's sale page. The blue jacket is my Sheene Man. I folded the collar really towards the back. This spreads the collar out and makes it looks like airplane wings in the front but I kinda dig it and the collar floats around the neck and does not create any pressure, not matter how I move my arms , the jacket just sits on my body and the collar "floats", I have good space and room between my neck and the collar.
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I was organizing my aviator jackets the other day and noticed my two Aero's are comparatively shorter in the front because I subconsciously pull the back down so the jacket sits more towards the back. This also works. I will get to folding those two collars when I get to like the Sheene Man and the two tone Daytona.

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The two Aeros are the two on the far right, compared to the other three jackets on the right, I wear the Aeros tilted to the back. So the front is a bit tilted up but I don't mind that look either. And just tugging the jacket back down is comfortable enough for me to wear those two jackets, and I hope this small change can work for you too. In the worst case where these two methods don't work for you you always have the option to sell and move on.

Give it a try they might just work.

Love the far left jacket. Johnson Leather in their bison?

 

[Will Zach]

Leather is plastic (deforms) when wet. If I had a jacket that I liked that pressed against my neck from behind or hanged on my neck, I would wet the offending area of the jacket until soaked through, and wear the damn thing until it dries. I would try to push against the wet jacket as much as I could. It would probably result in majorly stiff neck, but maybe the give (stretch) would be just enough to make it comfortable after it dries. Dunno.

 

[handymike]

I tried that and failed with my PMHYWYMN.
I’ve posted a similar shot before, but here you can see the difference in cuts/patterns:

 

[Canuck Panda]

Love the far left jacket. Johnson Leather in their bison?

Thanks, that one is from Japan. I do have a Johnson in the works and am planning to replace that.