N1 Deck Bib?

[WolfofStateSt]

I am on lots of small boats in 20-degree and colder weather with cold water spray. Does anyone have any recommendations for something that will protect me better than blue jeans in this frigid weather? Ideally, I could wear them over jeans and with an N1 Deck jacket.

Edit: So I discovered this thing called the N1 Deck Bib, and I saw there have been no posts about it on the forum; I thought this curious item deserved a post.

 

[Peacoat]

I am on lots of small boats in 20-degree and colder weather with cold water spray. Does anyone have any recommendations for something that will protect me better than blue jeans in this frigid weather? Ideally, I could wear them over jeans and with an N1 Deck jacket.

Edit: So I discovered this thing called the N1 Deck Bib, and I saw there have been no posts about it on the forum; I thought this curious item deserved a post.

I could be wrong but I seem to remember that the bib connects to the N-1 jacket by loops under the armpits of the N-1. The original N-1 should have the attaching loops, others do not.

When sailing, I had Gore Tex trousers to protect me from the spray. No attaching loops needed. Those trousers, along with a foul weather coat did the job.

 

[WolfofStateSt]

I could be wrong but I seem to remember that the bib connects to the N-1 jacket by loops under the armpits of the N-1. The original N-1 should have the attaching loops, others do not.

When sailing, I had Gore Tex trousers to protect me from the spray. No attaching loops needed. Those trousers, along with a foul weather coat did the job.

Makes sense, I doubt the conditions I’ll face will be as extreme as the ones you encounter. I stick very close to the shore at all times. I ordered a pair of repro N1 Bibs that are Alpaca lined; I’ll share my findings on the forum. It should look interesting paired with the Ironheart N1 Deck Jacket

 

[Will Zach]

Hey, fellow fisherman. I used to fish offshore in NJ in winter; great fun! Now in FL, so shorts and flip-flops.

Regarding warm bibs - I saw a few guys wearing Carhartt arctic bibs (not sure of the name), but they looked like they could be worn in the Arctic...

Edit - I now think it was a kind of a Carhartt arctic onesie - a scary-looking thing, perfect for braving winter storms on the Atlantic Ocean. Maybe they make bibs too.

https://www.carhartt.com/product/10...-insulated-biberall---4-extreme-warmth-rating

 

[Bfd70]

https://www.patagonia.com/product/h...MInPrArdDeigMVrkd_AB3mwDhmEAQYDCABEgJyufD_BwE

Throw some fleece underneath

 

[WolfofStateSt]

I already ordered Carhartt insulated pants for working on the farm. I ordered some sketchy N1 Deck Bib for the sea. Though, I’ll probably be doing all my activities from the shoreline until spring.

 

[WolfofStateSt]

I made the mistake of going in up to my knees in the lake the other day, only wearing jeans, was only 15 degrees out. Not fun, friends had to drive me home in my underwear.

 

[CatsCan]

Take into account, what those N1 Bibs were used for and in what era! They were used 80 years ago , when modern equipment was not yet invented. They were used on decks of aircraft carriers, you would be quite stationary, not very much moving around. And the chance to go over board was like zero if you weren't a total lunatic balancing beyond the catwalks or safety nets in high winds or take a step too much at the end of a flight deck..
The smaller the boat, the easier to end in the water. In your case, being on small boats, consider the problems that can be connected to those bibs. If you for whatever reason end up in the water, they'd soak water like mad and in seconds, making them unbearably heavy and will pull you right down, I believe, no I bet you can't even swim back to the boat in them. In cold water you will likely suffer from the shock in the first two minutes and your body can't do anything until you realise your breathing starts to settle, then you normally try to get back on the boat. Imagine this with an N1 Bib plus N1 Jacket!
Looking cool is one thing, but safety is another thing and on the water I would choose safety over looks every time. There is clothing designed for this and modern technologies pay out here! If you choose to go fishing in N1 System clothing, make sure to wear a life vest for heavy guys.

 

[Will Zach]

Take into account, what those N1 Bibs were used for and in what era! They were used 80 years ago , when modern equipment was not yet invented. They were used on decks of aircraft carriers, you would be quite stationary, not very much moving around. And the chance to go over board was like zero if you weren't a total lunatic balancing beyond the catwalks or safety nets in high winds or take a step too much at the end of a flight deck..
The smaller the boat, the easier to end in the water. In your case, being on small boats, consider the problems that can be connected to those bibs. If you for whatever reason end up in the water, they'd soak water like mad and in seconds, making them unbearably heavy and will pull you right down, I believe, no I bet you can't even swim back to the boat in them. In cold water you will likely suffer from the shock in the first two minutes and your body can't do anything until you realise your breathing starts to settle, then you normally try to get back on the boat. Imagine this with an N1 Bib plus N1 Jacket!
Looking cool is one thing, but safety is another thing and on the water I would choose safety over looks every time. There is clothing designed for this and modern technologies pay out here! If you choose to go fishing in N1 System clothing, make sure to wear a life vest for heavy guys.

All good points. They actually make floatable offshore clothing. I think neoprene is one of the materials, not sure, but definitely floatable. If I was on a smaller boat in foul weather in winter, that's what I'd wearing. Check that, I would not be on a small boat in foul weather in winter...

 

[thor]

I have worked on ships, tugs, small boats, military vessels, etc, my entire life. I agree with @Will Zach and @CatsCan to go with modern technology and updated materials and designs. If you have to be out there on a small boat in cold/winter weather, safety first!

 

[WolfofStateSt]

I think I am going to curtail my nautical expeditions until late Spring and early Summer. I couldn’t find an N1 bib that was my size, so I’ll probably buy one from Carhartt and use that for work on land. I might take my RC boats out to a stream nearby if it isn’t frozen solid, but that usually only requires a good pair of boots since I barely touch the water.

 

[Peacoat]

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I have worked on ships, tugs, small boats, military vessels, etc, my entire life. I agree with @Will Zach and @CatsCan to go with modern technology and updated materials and designs. If you have to be out there on a small boat in cold/winter weather, safety first!

^^^^^^^^^^
And this is from one who knows.

 

[CatsCan]

I have worked on ships, tugs, small boats, military vessels, etc, my entire life. I agree with @Will Zach and @CatsCan to go with modern technology and updated materials and designs. If you have to be out there on a small boat in cold/winter weather, safety first!

Good that you chimed in, Thor! Since there is noboby else here who knows this stuff better than you!
When it's was my time back in the late 80s, we still had improper gear. I remember the old Bordjacke, made from over 60% Viscose, leather jack boots with slippery soles, cotton trousers... not to mention improper winter gear. It was not until the mid 90s that things were greatly improved. During the same time I was much on private sailing boats in the North Sea, their Equipment was so professional compared to the Navy, they had proper offshore coats with high collar and integrated adjustable hood, proper bibs, proper sailing boots, mittens, or entire overalls, everything with reflectors and an intergrated alarm system that sent a signal when over bord, very expensive stuff but no crew was allowed without. North Sea is very dangerous waters, lots of unpredictable currents, rough waves, rapid weather changes, dangerous shoals, allways water too cold to survive very long.
It can't be stressed enough, that gear that was used for special purposes over 80 years ago or even four decades ago should no longer be used for the same purposes today! We wouldn't go on an Antarctic expedition in Robert Falcon Scotts Gear or climb Everest in Mallory's boots today.