Movie Villains

[Hondo]

twitchy bank robber in Kansas City Confidential.

I like that lol but seriously be was good gang member, they just never develop his part, character more, say like Lee Van Cleef, Strother Martin, second bit cast members. jack Elam could have been meaner.

Gene Hackman, as Little Bill was alright as much as I like Hackmen, his face doesn’t scare me, its not his fault, Its just an opinion, I think another actor should have that part, its just my feeling, Its not bad, it could have been better.

I'm totally bogarting a movie conversation I had with someone last week by mentioning these but...

No Magua yet?

And since Hondo mentioned westerns, how about Gene Hackman as Little Bill in Unforgiven?

No Magua yet?

Russell Means as Chingachgook and Wes Studi as the evil Magua. The Last of the Mohicans? Playing Native American, very good, nearly stole the movie, again strong character study, I don't know if it qualifies as villain, given both actors didn’t have more background, film roles, but maybe [huh]

If placed in that type of situation, you can’t be scared, its fight to the death, oh you can be scared but I’d rather die fighting than wimp out, cry to mercy, Maguas just going to kill you either way, see?

 

[HadleyH]

it was mentioned before but...

-The Wicked Witch of the West-

from the Wizard of Oz(1939)...she's so good!!! best villain ever :eusa_clap

 

[Shearer]

I like that lol but seriously be was good gang member, they just never develop his part, character more, say like Lee Van Cleef, Strother Martin, second bit cast members. jack Elam could have been meaner.

Gene Hackman, as Little Bill was alright as much as I like Hackmen, his face doesn’t scare me, its not his fault, Its just an opinion, I think another actor should have that part, its just my feeling, Its not bad, it could have been better.

Russell Means as Chingachgook and Wes Studi as the evil Magua. The Last of the Mohicans? Playing Native American, very good, nearly stole the movie, again strong character study, I don't know if it qualifies as villain, given both actors didn’t have more background, film roles, but maybe [huh]

If placed in that type of situation, you can’t be scared, its fight to the death, oh you can be scared but I’d rather die fighting than wimp out, cry to mercy, Maguas just going to kill you either way, see?

Yes, I was hesitant to put these in the villains list, especially Elam. He's a great character in that film, but not nearly developed enough like you said (pretty big cast, and not really one of my favourite films to begin with.) He's also underutilized in Kiss Me Deadly. But then again, I love character actors and it's almost a good thing that they aren't overexposed... it's such a joy to find their small parts in movies.

Gene Hackman is hard to look at without thinking Popeye Doyle lol

But while villains are great, I like the ambiguous bad guy in noir films or the small role that steals the movie, so I decided to stick them in here anyway.

 

[BegintheBeguine]

Villainous Leer

Ah, yes, Ross Martin. Not only 'Experiment in Terror', Naphtali, but the T.V. movie 'The Sheriff'.

 

[J.S.Udontknowme]

Lee Van Cleef is my favorite bad guy.
Andy Griffith did a good job in "Savages".

 

[BegintheBeguine]

Oh! And Andy Griffith in 'Murder in Coweta County'. Thanks for reminding me!

 

[MrBern]

Russell Means as Chingachgook and Wes Studi as the evil Magua. The Last of the Mohicans? Playing Native American, very good, nearly stole the movie, again strong character study, I don't know if it qualifies as villain, given both actors didn’t have more background, film roles, but maybe [huh]

If placed in that type of situation, you can’t be scared, its fight to the death, oh you can be scared but I’d rather die fighting than wimp out, cry to mercy, Maguas just going to kill you either way, see?

Not a villain? Magua's drive to stand over the white Colonel, cut his heart out & show it to him AND let him know that he would kill his daughters as well....seems like pretty good villain material.

And I love this other mohawk villain:

 

[Shearer]

Not a villain? Magua's drive to stand over the white Colonel, cut his heart out & show it to him AND let him know that he would kill his daughters as well....seems like pretty good villain material.

And I love this other mohawk villain:

Where did you find that picture of my daily commute?

 

[Diamondback]

Where did you find that picture of my daily commute?

*ulp* Does this mean I need to wear my flak-jacket to the Comic-Con?

 

[Hondo]

Originally Posted by MrBern
Not a villain? Magua's drive to stand over the white Colonel, cut his heart out & show it to him AND let him know that he would kill his daughters as well....seems like pretty good villain material.

Villain? perhaps, you can call him the enemy, I think of it as a proud native American Indian defending their land, maybe too much by how he kills; don't really known him, or his character because he's a real person, not made up.

 

[Shearer]

*ulp* Does this mean I need to wear my flak-jacket to the Comic-Con?

Not that I know of , I was actually referring to something I'd said about marines riding their bikes with mohawk helmets... I drive through Camp Pendleton every day.

 

[MrBern]

Villain? perhaps, you can call him the enemy, I think of it as a proud native American Indian defending their land, maybe too much by how he kills; don't really known him, or his character because he's a real person, not made up.

Ah, well, like I said, Magua was on a vendetta to murder the Colonel & murder his kids. It wasnt about defense, it was revenge.
As the native american elder said in that movie, "Magua's heart is twisted."

actually, wikipedia has him listed as the main villain of the novel.
wiki link

 

[Diamondback]

Not that I know of , I was actually referring to something I'd said about marines riding their bikes with mohawk helmets... I drive through Camp Pendleton every day.

That's a relief, it woulda clashed with the MacArthur khakis and A-2. Speaking of, I better go drop a ping on the CC thread...

 

[Mike1939]

Barbara Stanwyck in The Strange Love of Martha Ivers
Peter Lorre in the original The Man Who Knew Too Much
Joseph Cotton in Shadow of a Doubt

 

[Hondo]

Ah, well, like I said, Magua was on a vendetta to murder the Colonel & murder his kids. It wasnt about defense, it was revenge.
As the native american elder said in that movie, "Magua's heart is twisted."

actually, wikipedia has him listed as the main villain of the novel.
wiki link

Villain it is, hands down, Wes Studi was strong :eusa_clap

 

[DanielJones]

The late Amrish Puri as Mola Ram was an excellent villain in an ok movie. He made a career later on out of being the villain.

Cheers!

Dan

 

[Haversack]

I just finished rewatching the PBS Mystery series, _Heat of the Sun_ (Set in 1930s Kenya). I would nominate Joss Ackland for his portrayal of the villainous
Max van der Vuurst. Rather like Sydney Greenstreet, but nastier.

Haversack.

 

[Naphtali]

Has anyone mentioned Robert Ryan as Terance Stamp's nemesis in Billy Budd" (1962)?

 

[MrBern]

Villain? perhaps, you can call him the enemy, I think of it as a proud native American Indian defending their land, maybe too much by how he kills; don't really known him, or his character because he's a real person, not made up.

Incidentally, that might be a valid view of his role in DanceswithWolves.
PawneeWarrior & scenestealer

 

[HadleyH]

who are these villains?

I've never heard of them [huh]
I prefer my villians in black and white.
Great Golden Age movies, great Golden Age villains!!![huh] lol