Military 'woolly pully' sweaters

[Ticklishchap]

I hope I'm not being 'British' in not liking change, but to be honest I was quite happy with the old site. The new one is harder to navigate and many of the models are unconvincing. It's trying to be slick and modern, but in fact resembles the Brian Mills catalogues of the 1970s.

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

I hope I'm not being 'British' in not liking change, but to be honest I was quite happy with the old site. The new one is harder to navigate and many of the models are unconvincing. It's trying to be slick and modern, but in fact resembles the Brian Mills catalogues of the 1970s.

I Know what you mean. Mind you they have added some good looking new sweaters etc.

 

[Ticklishchap]

Now that we in the Northern Hemisphere are reluctantly putting our Woolly Pullies away until the Autumn (or Fall), I imagine that our WP friends Down Under are starting to put them to good use.

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

Now that we in the Northern Hemisphere are reluctantly putting our Woolly Pullies away until the Autumn (or Fall), I imagine that our WP friends Down Under are starting to put them to good use.

The past couple of days here it has been very windy and rainy too, so I'm still using my sweaters.

 

[mariner]

I hope I'm not being 'British' in not liking change, but to be honest I was quite happy with the old site. The new one is harder to navigate and many of the models are unconvincing. It's trying to be slick and modern, but in fact resembles the Brian Mills catalogues of the 1970s.

Had to google Brian Mills; very funny, but those were the days! The real problem is trying to make a traditional product appeal when your buyers are traditional too.

I personally find their woolly pully submariner's jumper not very nice at all - the last one I saw was too thin and stretchy with an odd shaped neck that didn't sit properly; you can see that in the new models with that strange extra roll / lumpy bit on the collar bone. Absolutely nothing beats the original weight submarine sweater and my favourites were made by a company called Pick & Son who did them in sufficient volumes. You can still pick them up new old stock for £30 less than the new prices being quoted.

I do like Outdoor Knitwear's Chatham model though, the modern ribbed woolly pully fit is quite loose now - I seem to remember they used to be thicker, longer in the body and stretchier / form fitting - was that the 70s? Also very traditional colours on that model too, would be interested if they had other colours.

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

Had to google Brian Mills; very funny, but those were the days! The real problem is trying to make a traditional product appeal when your buyers are traditional too.

I personally find their woolly pully submariner's jumper not very nice at all - the last one I saw was too thin and stretchy with an odd shaped neck that didn't sit properly; you can see that in the new models with that strange extra roll / lumpy bit on the collar bone. Absolutely nothing beats the original weight submarine sweater and my favourites were made by a company called Pick & Son who did them in sufficient volumes. You can still pick them up new old stock for £30 less than the new prices being quoted.

I do like Outdoor Knitwear's Chatham model though, the modern ribbed woolly pully fit is quite loose now - I seem to remember they used to be thicker, longer in the body and stretchier / form fitting - was that the 70s? Also very traditional colours on that model too, would be interested if they had other colours.

I had to look up Brian Mills too.

Shame you are not over keen on OKW Submariners Sweaters. I think newer production methods can not always recreate completely the older way of doing things.

I picked up, if you will pardon the pun, a Submariner by J Pick & Sons a few years ago and I still have it, it does wear very well, still fits snugly too. I also have a another sub which I bought from a firm called Silverman's in the east end of London which is fine and a navy blue sub from Grand Prix legends who are in the Guilford area of Surrey and again is a very good sweater indeed.


(There is a whole thread about Submariners/RAF White roll Neck Sweaters in the WW11 section on Fedora Lounge.)

The Chatham Sweater you mention from OKW is a roll neck and they bought it out last year, I have some and am very pleased with them, they added pen pockets and epaulettes for me at a very modest fee and in the winter these were very warm and again snug fitting pullovers.

 

[Ticklishchap]

Had to google Brian Mills; very funny, but those were the days! The real problem is trying to make a traditional product appeal when your buyers are traditional too.

I personally find their woolly pully submariner's jumper not very nice at all - the last one I saw was too thin and stretchy with an odd shaped neck that didn't sit properly; you can see that in the new models with that strange extra roll / lumpy bit on the collar bone. Absolutely nothing beats the original weight submarine sweater and my favourites were made by a company called Pick & Son who did them in sufficient volumes. You can still pick them up new old stock for £30 less than the new prices being quoted.

I do like Outdoor Knitwear's Chatham model though, the modern ribbed woolly pully fit is quite loose now - I seem to remember they used to be thicker, longer in the body and stretchier / form fitting - was that the 70s? Also very traditional colours on that model too, would be interested if they had other colours.

Overall I'm a bit unimpressed by the new OKW website. It all looks a bit unconvincing as if it's trying to follow certain trends in web design but not succeeding. ... The models are a bit unconvincing too, which is why I was reminded of Brian Mills and other 1970s mail order catalogues.

If you click on the 'Woolly Pully' logo on the site it will take you to a large range of colours (although no additions to the Chatsworth roll neck range). I have recently bought from OKW two new WPs with pipe pocket as well as epps: Dark Grey Mix and Peat Brown. They are very much the traditional WPs I am pleased to say and I have worn them a lot until this week when it's not been cold enough except for a couple of mornings and evenings. I look forward to making good use of them in the autumn - along with other WPs, of which I am happy to say I have an embarrassing number.

I do not make nearly enough use of my submariners' sweater which is very thick and warm and came from Silverman's many years ago.

 

[Ticklishchap]

Did I say 'pipe pocket'/ I meant pen pocket of course but I have a friend who calls them pipe pockets and that must have influenced me!

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

Overall I'm a bit unimpressed by the new OKW website. It all looks a bit unconvincing as if it's trying to follow certain trends in web design but not succeeding. ... The models are a bit unconvincing too, which is why I was reminded of Brian Mills and other 1970s mail order catalogues.

If you click on the 'Woolly Pully' logo on the site it will take you to a large range of colours (although no additions to the Chatsworth roll neck range). I have recently bought from OKW two new WPs with pipe pocket as well as epps: Dark Grey Mix and Peat Brown. They are very much the traditional WPs I am pleased to say and I have worn them a lot until this week when it's not been cold enough except for a couple of mornings and evenings. I look forward to making good use of them in the autumn - along with other WPs, of which I am happy to say I have an embarrassing number.

I do not make nearly enough use of my submariners' sweater which is very thick and warm and came from Silverman's many years ago.

I Do hope that you like your two new sweaters (with "Pipe Pockets", I wonder if that is copper pipe or a smokers briar pipe? , not that you see many of the latter these days.)

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

I have found it necessary to wear a woolly pulley in the past couple of days which have been much cooler and very wet. (A typical British Summer day in fact.)

 

[Ticklishchap]

I have found it necessary to wear a woolly pulley in the past couple of days which have been much cooler and very wet. (A typical British Summer day in fact.)

We've had a brief lull or respite over the past few days and I have been able to wear WPs for part of each day. I've been wearing my Dark Grey Mix a lot.

I wish you were right about British summer days being cool. I think you're imagining that actually. British summers, especially in the South-East, are often uncomfortably warm with a heat that clings on into the evening and night. They are always humid. It's either sweltering and humid or raining and humid. Some people claim to like summer or even look forward to it but I think it's a rehearsal for Hell.

All the other three seasons I enjoy in their own ways, but summer ... yuck! Roll on September.

 

[Fed in a Fedora]

I had to laugh when I saw this thread activity. (Although I was thinking that our friends in the southern hemisphere might be chiming in.) It has been well into the 90s here with very high humidity, so you would think WPs would not be discussed. However, my office is often so cold that I use one here to avoid shivering.

Several years ago, an agency excessed a bundle of the black WPs from Brigade Quartermasters with the elbow patches. Several were quickly liberated from a bin and have served me well ever since.

From hunting, hiking, motorcycling or just yard work, these are great! A couple have taken some damage from briars in the woods and needed to be mended, but still do a good job.

Been contemplating buying more in varied colors - particularly like the light colored English Submariner version.

Thanks for the discussion and recommendations of OKW!

Fed

 

[Ticklishchap]

I had to laugh when I saw this thread activity. (Although I was thinking that our friends in the southern hemisphere might be chiming in.) It has been well into the 90s here with very high humidity, so you would think WPs would not be discussed. However, my office is often so cold that I use one here to avoid shivering.

Several years ago, an agency excessed a bundle of the black WPs from Brigade Quartermasters with the elbow patches. Several were quickly liberated from a bin and have served me well ever since.

From hunting, hiking, motorcycling or just yard work, these are great! A couple have taken some damage from briars in the woods and needed to be mended, but still do a good job.

Been contemplating buying more in varied colors - particularly like the light colored English Submariner version.

Thanks for the discussion and recommendations of OKW!

Fed

Fed, I am envying your air conditioned office. We have far less air conditioning over here and it's often less good quality than in the US. That said, the temperatures in the summer aren't usually as high, but the humidity can be! I look forward to the autumn (Fall in your language) when I can wear WPs as often as I wish - in varied colours. The black has a certain elegance and style and I have worn it in town as well as country. It's the colour of our Royal Tank Regiment.
What do you mean by the 'light coloured English submariner version'? Please let me know. I'm sure I have it but know it by a different name?

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

Outdoor knitwear have a number of roll necks/turtle necks, the Ecru/Off White and also Navy Blue colours as well as their newish Roll Necks, Ribbed, based on the traditional Woolly Pullys.

 

[Fed in a Fedora]

Fed, I am envying your air conditioned office. We have far less air conditioning over here and it's often less good quality than in the US. That said, the temperatures in the summer aren't usually as high, but the humidity can be! I look forward to the autumn (Fall in your language) when I can wear WPs as often as I wish - in varied colours. The black has a certain elegance and style and I have worn it in town as well as country. It's the colour of our Royal Tank Regiment.
What do you mean by the 'light coloured English submariner version'? Please let me know. I'm sure I have it but know it by a different name?

The A/C is good - if you are not along the line which gets too much or too little of it. I just happen to get too much of a good thing. But the good news is that this will end shortly as I plan to retire at the end of the year and let someone else enjoy that A/C.

Fall and Autumn are used interchangeably here.

The black WPs are often used by our law enforcement agencies.

The particular item of interest to me is:
http://www.outdoorknitwear.com/rollturtle-neck-/1-submariners-sweater.html

Sharp looking item.

Fed

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

Yes, I have one of their Submariner Sweaters and am very pleased with them.

There is a whole thread on Fedora Lounge in WW11 section about these white/off white RAF & Navy roll neck Submariner Sweaters.

 

[Ticklishchap]

The A/C is good - if you are not along the line which gets too much or too little of it. I just happen to get too much of a good thing. But the good news is that this will end shortly as I plan to retire at the end of the year and let someone else enjoy that A/C.

Fall and Autumn are used interchangeably here.

The black WPs are often used by our law enforcement agencies.

The particular item of interest to me is:
http://www.outdoorknitwear.com/rollturtle-neck-/1-submariners-sweater.html

Sharp looking item.

Fed

I've taken a leaf out of your book and worn my black WP for the past couple of early mornings.

I know they are worn by many US law enforcement agencies and I think some US Army sections wear them as well.

The submariner sweater is a sharp looking item as you say. I have one in my wardrobe, bought many years ago from Silverman's.

I haven't heard Autumn used interchangeably with Fall in the US. But then I've only been to the North-East and West, not your area. It could be a regional thing.

Have a happy retirement.

 

[Ticklishchap]

It's been raining and unseasonably cold today and so it's been possible to don a WP for the first time in weeks. I've chosen the black WP, in deference to our American friends. ...

 

[ingineer]

TC,
i think the black WP over here is defunct and were not very good, the last issues were in Olive Drab.
You don't see them worn here very often even though the ODs are/were permitted with Muffti
Someone still in the service correct me

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

It's been raining and unseasonably cold today and so it's been possible to don a WP for the first time in weeks. I've chosen the black WP, in deference to our American friends. ...

Oddly enough, I have been doing just the same.