Master Supply Co

[ton312]

Oh, I love this! So now we’ve moved from gatekeeping ‘heritage’ to declaring it culturally dead. Rugged workwear is the new North Face? Maybe in some corners of the internet, sure. But the funny thing about subcultures is that they don’t exist in a vacuum—they ebb and flow, sometimes codifying into trends, sometimes evolving into something unexpected. That’s kind of the point of cultural production, isn’t it?

But more importantly, if heritage workwear is so utterly boring, why are we all here? Why spend your time in a forum dedicated to discussing it in exacting detail? If this whole aesthetic is just an empty performance for aging men afraid of irrelevance, then… what are you doing?

Seems like a lot of words to tell us you’re over it

Well I’m not a lost cowboy. I’m a found cowboy. I graduated from heritage, sick fades and the same 5 jackets years ago… now my purpose to infect this forum, like a virus, into the true golden age. The 1970’s.

 

[wearever]

I think the difference is rugged west doesn’t use hokey, faux dirt distressing and the jackets and patterns aren’t cheesy looking. They appear more refined over all. Much more like a repro brand, better hides. A tier or two above MSC for the most part, which to me looks like 4 Star or Cidu from China.

So just to be clear—this distinction is based entirely on how the jackets ‘appear’ to you? One brand ‘looks more refined,’ while the other ‘looks like’ a budget-tier jacket? That’s the depth of analysis we’re working with?

You’re not pointing to leather grades, stitching comparisons, pattern accuracy, or anything tangible—just a vague aesthetic judgment that happens to align with the prevailing group opinion here.

If there’s an actual side-by-side comparison of construction, materials, and durability, I’d love to see it. But until then, this reads like another case of reinforcing perception rather than engaging with reality.

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

^^^…vocabulistics….priceless!!
And perfect.
B

 

[wearever]

Well I’m not a lost cowboy. I’m a found cowboy. I graduated from heritage, sick fades and the same 5 jackets years ago… now my purpose to infect this forum, like a virus, into the true golden age. The 1970’s.

Ahh... the golden age... You ever hear of Ultrasuede partner? A true revolution. Practical, stylish, and ready for the disco or the desert.

And hey, I appreciate a good virus—the kind that shakes things up, forces evolution. Keeps things interesting.

 

[wearever]

^^^…vocabulistics….priceless!!
And perfect.
B

Ah, yes—when in doubt, make fun of the words instead of engaging with the argument. A classic move. But hey, if vocabulary is the real issue here, I can always dial it down. Wouldn't want to overwhelm the sewing circle.

You guys are the bullies here. I came in for a real discussion, and all I get is a chorus of sneering dismissals and inside jokes. If the real issue is that you just don’t like what I have to say, that’s fine—just say that. But let’s not pretend this is some noble defense of the craft.

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

Ah, yes—when in doubt, make fun of the words instead of engaging with the argument. A classic move. But hey, if vocabulary is the real issue here, I can always dial it down. Wouldn't want to overwhelm the sewing circle.

You guys are the bullies here. I came in for a real discussion, and all I get is a chorus of sneering dismissals and inside jokes. If the real issue is that you just don’t like what I have to say, that’s fine—just say that. But let’s not pretend this is some noble defense of the craft.

“And hey, I appreciate a good virus—the kind that shakes things up, forces evolution. Keeps things interesting”.

So you like a good virus…we have one here. It comes around fairly often. It doesn’t last long and the contagion flames out spectacularly within about 90 days.

It’s when the new guy raises his hand in response to the unasked question “who’s the smartest guy in the room”?
All the while the smartest guy in the room just waits for the new guy to shut TF up.
He doesn’t need to even speak, he knows well that the virus will run it’s coarse.
You’ve raised your hand over and over.
Congratulations. It too shall pass.
B

 

[ton312]

So just to be clear—this distinction is based entirely on how the jackets ‘appear’ to you? One brand ‘looks more refined,’ while the other ‘looks like’ a budget-tier jacket? That’s the depth of analysis we’re working with?

You’re not pointing to leather grades, stitching comparisons, pattern accuracy, or anything tangible—just a vague aesthetic judgment that happens to align with the prevailing group opinion here.

If there’s an actual side-by-side comparison of construction, materials, and durability, I’d love to see it. But until then, this reads like another case of reinforcing perception rather than engaging with reality.

Indeed it is….because all of the things you mention are laid bare in photos! Leather quality, patterns, stitch quality. It’s all there. Blind Freddy could see it. You can’t? Really? Is this your first leather jacket? That’s fine if it is but my God man. I don’t know how to make you see what’s plainly obvious. You’ll find out on your own. Hopefully you’re happy with it. It seemingly took a lot for you to get there! I’m certainly not mad at you at all. I do get strong shill vibes from your posts.

When you receive the jacket please do take quality photos and post them.

I can assure the responses will be honest, regardless of how they make anyone feel. It just as a small example, let’s look at something very simple.
Look at this construction: from MSC, sloppy stitching, puckered panels and absolutely massive needle holes:

Flat, unfolded seam, massive needle

Vs comparably priced also Pakistani manufactured RW:
Certainly more refined stitch work, welted seams and across the board, much more appealing leather.

 

[Bkcmart]

Indeed it is….because all of the things you mention are laid bare in photos! Leather quality, patterns, stitch quality. It’s all there. Blind Freddy could see it. You can’t? Really? Is this your first leather jacket? That’s fine if it is but my God man. I don’t know how to make you see what’s plainly obvious. You’ll find out on your own. Hopefully you’re happy with it. It seemingly took a lot for you to get there! I’m certainly not mad at you at all. I do get strong shill vibes from your posts.

When you receive the jacket please do take quality photos and post them.

I can assure the responses will be honest, regardless of how they make anyone feel. It just as a small example, let’s look at something very simple.
Look at this construction: from MSC, sloppy stitching, puckered panels and absolutely massive needle holes:

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Flat, unfolded seam, massive needle
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Vs comparably priced also Pakistani manufactured RW:
Certainly more refined stitch work, welted seams and across the board, much more appealing leather.
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Ok yeah now the difference seems obvious

 

[wearever]

“And hey, I appreciate a good virus—the kind that shakes things up, forces evolution. Keeps things interesting”.

So you like a good virus…we have one here. It comes around fairly often. It doesn’t last long and the contagion flames out spectacularly within about 90 days.

It’s when the new guy raises his hand in response to the unasked question “who’s the smartest guy in the room”?
All the while the smartest guy in the room just waits for the new guy to shut TF up.
He doesn’t need to even speak, he knows well that the virus will run it’s coarse.
You’ve raised your hand over and over.
Congratulations. It too shall pass.
B

It’s incredible—almost funny—how perfectly this reply proves the very point I keep raising—yet again! It’s like some of you just can’t help yourselves. You keep doing the exact thing at the heart of my concern with this thread.

This was never about who’s the “smartest person in the room.” It’s about how this group operates—marking distinctions between insiders and outsiders, new and old, as a way to protect its own authority rather than engage in any meaningful discussion. And here it is again: not a counterpoint, not an argument—just another attempt to enforce hierarchy and shut down conversation. The lack of awareness is truly something to behold.

What? You think this is about posturing expertise in leather jackets? I’ve said from the beginning that I don’t have any! That was NEVER the issue. In fact, my lack of expertise is why I initially came to this site!

The issue I discovered in this thread is exactly what you’re doing right now—how this group prioritizes insularity over discussion, how it polices legitimacy by marking insiders and outsiders, and how it shuts down challenges rather than engaging with them.

And somehow, instead of addressing that, you’re proving my point again. It’s almost impressive.

You’re trying to do the same thing to me that was done to Master Supply—shut out something by retreating into a gaggle of ninnies talking a bunch of shit. It’s desperate. It’s transparent. And it’s exactly why this discussion lost credibility.

Is this high school? If you actually have a problem with Master Supply Co., why don’t you reach out to them directly? I don’t care if you do or not, but the logic of knee-jerk exclusion is the issue. How many times do I need to say this?

As for the “smart people” in this thread—they’re the ones who have just asked for more information. If you have a substantive critique of Master Supply—that would be great! That’s what I came here for! I would welcome that because it would help me learn something about these jackets—but honestly and in good faith.

Meanwhile, the dominant voices here are all stuck in this weird, self-congratulatory exercise in shutting down what is perceived as dissent.

And yeah, I know people are going to read this as promotional, but at this point? The more you keep pushing the insider/outsider shit, the better I feel about buying that jacket. I mean this whole thread has turned that jacket into a big “**** you” to posing and pretension.

 

[The Lost Cowboy]

It’s incredible—almost funny—how perfectly this reply proves the very point I keep raising—yet again! It’s like some of you just can’t help yourselves. You keep doing the exact thing at the heart of my concern with this thread.

This was never about who’s the “smartest person in the room.” It’s about how this group operates—marking distinctions between insiders and outsiders, new and old, as a way to protect its own authority rather than engage in any meaningful discussion. And here it is again: not a counterpoint, not an argument—just another attempt to enforce hierarchy and shut down conversation. The lack of awareness is truly something to behold.

What? You think this is about posturing expertise in leather jackets? I’ve said from the beginning that I don’t have any! That was NEVER the issue. In fact, my lack of expertise is why I initially came to this site!

The issue I discovered in this thread is exactly what you’re doing right now—how this group prioritizes insularity over discussion, how it polices legitimacy by marking insiders and outsiders, and how it shuts down challenges rather than engaging with them.

And somehow, instead of addressing that, you’re proving my point again. It’s almost impressive.

You’re trying to do the same thing to me that was done to Master Supply—shut out something by retreating into a gaggle of ninnies talking a bunch of shit. It’s desperate. It’s transparent. And it’s exactly why this discussion lost credibility.

Is this high school? If you actually have a problem with Master Supply Co., why don’t you reach out to them directly? I don’t care if you do or not, but the logic of knee-jerk exclusion is the issue. How many times do I need to say this?

As for the “smart people” in this thread—they’re the ones who have just asked for more information. If you have a substantive critique of Master Supply—that would be great! That’s what I came here for! I would welcome that because it would help me learn something about these jackets—but honestly and in good faith.

Meanwhile, the dominant voices here are all stuck in this weird, self-congratulatory exercise in shutting down what is perceived as dissent.

And yeah, I know people are going to read this as promotional, but at this point? The more you keep pushing the insider/outsider shit, the better I feel about buying that jacket. I mean this whole thread has turned that jacket into a big “**** you” to posing and pretension.

Wow, I read three paragraphs of that and all it proved to me is how absolutely broken our tertiary education system is. You have absolutely no clue how much you don't know. All you seem to be capable of is argumentation and self-righteousness. Typical college bullshit these days.

I have zero time for that in my life anymore.

Not all leather jackets are of equal value or quality. You don't know the difference. But many here do. That makes them more valuable to this communcity than you are.

I hope one day you will understand that.

Welcome to my ignore list.

 

[ton312]

Wow, I read three paragraphs of that and all it proved to me is how absolutely broken our tertiary education system is. You have absolutely no clue how much you don't know. All you seem to be capable of is argumentation and self-righteousness. Typical college bullshit these days.

I have zero time for that in my life anymore.

Not all leather jackets are of equal value or quality. You don't know the difference. But many here do. That makes them more valuable to this communcity than you are.

I hope one day you will understand that.

Welcome to my ignore list.

Don’t do it! You’ll miss the reverse auction in the classifieds down to a fitting $125 shipped!