Leather jacket sizing, too big or small?

[MickeyPunch]

If you post this then you’re not happy, so unless you’re drowning in money then return and keep looking, or try to size down.

I never really followed John Elliott but they used to do skinny stuff, and if the model pic is an indication of intended fit then it seems to be a bit Hedi-esque, i.e. skinny, cropped and with a big front opening. That’s not really how it looks on you.

 

[VansonRider]

The sleeves are the right length, they're falling too far on your hands because the shoulder seam of the jacket is hanging a little past your natural shoulder width.
As far as the rest, I think we need to see it zipped and from the side.
It WILL look better as it wears in, but it won't change sizes.

 

[Eagledog]

It doesn't look good or comfortable with the shirt all bunched up in front. Sleeves are too wide and long unless you're riding a motorcycle. It has a lot of extra material in the chest area that looks uncomfortable in the armpit area. And the belt will be annoying dangling behind your waist. I would look for something with slimmer arms and no belt in a smaller chest size.

 

[Aloysius]

on the flipside, it is a $2,000 jacket and I want to make sure its the right fit for both aesthetic and comfort.

Really?

I honestly assumed it was a $200 made-in-Pakistan "motorcycle jacket" from Amazon from the pic. (Nothing wrong with that, to be clear, and it wouldn't have stopped me from giving you fit advice.) But hearing it cost $2000 is horrifying.

Perhaps it shouldn't have surprised me because those $200 jackets usually have a better fit/pattern, probably because they're somewhat mass market (which often does mean good patterning.)

 

[TartuWolf]

For that kind of money you could go to Johnson Leathers (just to name one example) and get an absolute top quality, high-end, custom, built-for-a-lifetime leather jacket with the leather of your choice and support a small honest business which will have a personal contact with you. And yet you choose to give this money to "John Elliott". Dunno man, feels like you could do much better and walk away with a much better result...

 

[Will Zach]

^^
... and if you feel that "motorcycle jackets" are too heavy and stiff for you, a maker like Johnson Leathers, Aero or Thedi will let you choose a lighter and softer leather. Not a condom-soft stuff like John Elliott, mind.

 

[MrProper]

If you can afford it, it's perfectly okay to pay a lot of tuition fees

 

[MickeyPunch]

I’m in the minority here but I like fashion. There’s a lot of different styles out there and while a lot of them don’t appeal to me, I can still appreciate them as I like to think I’m open minded. That is why I don’t mind paying $$$ for a designer piece if I feel it’s unique and I like it a lot.

That being said, I don’t think that jacket has anything unique about it, neither in terms of design, pattern or anything else.

I completely understand that Schott (or any other FL-approved maker) jackets would feel overwhelming, and the desire for a softer one (condom-like apparently, as described above) while having some of that “leather jacket” feel. Hell, I even have one lamb leather jacket that some people here think would instantly desintegrate in contact with anything other than the softest velvet, but that has held up for over 10 years just fine, and it would be also fine for people like me that don’t ride a bike or live an Indiana Jones life. I do groceries and go to the park with my nearly 3 yo daughter, that’s about it; the rest of the day I sit in front of a screen. But just like I left my raw denim days behind (it’s fun for a while but such a drag, and didn’t enjoy leaving a trail of blue stains behind, and let’s not talk about “wash every 6 months” thing because that’s just gross), I understand why some don’t want CXLFQHH that looks, feels and drapes like a cardboard box. Even what in this forum is considered “pliable” is just too heavy and stiff for the non-FL individual.

But if you go for a fashion jacket maybe look at something that’s more original and that has a pattern that works better for you. E.g. a Margiela 5-zip. I think they make a cheaper version (MM6 or something like that) that should be within reach considering you dropped $2k on that. That “MMM” (Maison Martin Margiela) jacket is one that’s approved in fashion circles, and that has stood the test of time. Granted, it won’t be FL approved but you’ll see that in this forum the standard uniform is leather jacket + t-shirt or checkered shirt + jeans, and hardly anyone ventures beyond that. Many here would think that nothing noteworthy was designed after the 50s. Which is fine as long as there is no derogatory comments towards those who think otherwise. Because the irony here is that the first guys wearing leather jackets other than for riding or flying a plane were basically doing “fashion”; same for the ones that first wore jeans in any situation that didn’t involve working in the mines first and then being literal cowboys. If it was not for fashion maybe we’d be wearing powdered wigs nowadays. If someone makes snarky comments they risk looking like the “old man yells at cloud” meme, or “my (75 yo) fashion is better than your fashion” nonsense.

All this being said, as I said above you can do better, esp. for $2k. On the other hand, for quite a few people $2k, $200 or $20 is the same, a negligible ampunt lf money, yet some people keeps thinking “they’re stupid to spend that much money on X”. Well, there’s many people in the world that would think it’s stupid to spend $3 on a coffe, because it’s all a matter of perspective.

One final note: John Elliott is just a guy, and this jacket is MiUSA for those who care about such thing. He’s not going around pulling a gun on people forcing them to buy his stuff, which he doesn’t seem to market as the best thing ever. Reading the comments above it’d look as if John Elliott was a ruthless billionaire and the people at Johnson Leathers, or Thedi or Aero or anyone else were living under a bridge when I’m sure they’re doing just fine. They all make stuff and ask a given amount for it, if people are willingly buying that I can’t see where the dishonesty is.

 

[centurionslut]

One final note: John Elliott is just a guy, and this jacket is MiUSA for those who care about such thing. He’s not going around pulling a gun on people forcing them to buy his stuff, which he doesn’t seem to market as the best thing ever. Reading the comments above it’d look as if John Elliott was a ruthless billionaire and the people at Johnson Leathers, or Thedi or Aero or anyone else were living under a bridge when I’m sure they’re doing just fine. They all make stuff and ask a given amount for it, if people are willingly buying that I can’t see where the dishonesty is.

100. the jacket was made in Los Angeles, I know who John Elliott is and literally what he looks like.

Who is "Johnson leathers"... never even heard of it.

I googled it and apparently it's a shop in San Francisco. No clue who this Johnson person is, or if they even exist, or what their ethics are.

The website looks likes its from the 1900s, is literally "in construction" and the about us page is a 404 error. I think I'll pass

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

^^^ ”condom-like”….f’n epic!!