The yanks all say "cor blimey" and the cockneys say "O.K."?dundeedavie said:you have such rich culture of your own that we get wrong ....and this is the same vice-versa
dundeedavie said:80's skinheads are better known as BONEHEADS due to the shaved head and boots up to their knees ...no sartorial elegance whatsoever , listening to punk that they termed Oi! .
however the "spirit of '69" is such there is a group of traditional skinheads who wear tailor made suits and are as authentic as can be ..... hair is slightly longer with fully fashioned sideburns , button down shirts (often tailor made also ) levi's and boots (very very highly polished ) . at night styles change with suits replacing the levi's (shirt , socks and hanky matching) and brogues replacing boots ....no self-respecting sinhead would wear boots at night , or jeans for that matter .traditional skinheads listened to reggae, rocksteady and soul music and took their fashions from jamaican artists ....BONEHEADS should NEVER be referred to as skinhead because it's an insult to those that do it well ...
as with most 60's subcultures americans just never got it , you may call that ignorant i call it fact because it is . you have such rich culture of your own that we get wrong ....and this is the same vice-versa
MudInYerEye said:Your culture? Hmmnn....It could be debated whether Dundee Scotland of the Lower East Side of New York City more culturally resembles East London but I'll leave that to the experts.
Whatever the case, your "facts" seem a bit provincial to say the least. I lived in London in the late 1980's and all the "traditionalist" skins hung out with "boneheads" (and psychobillies, etc for that matter) with little dischord regardless of musical tastes or political lines of thought. In fact the "traditionalist" and "bonehead" were often the same person depending on the prevailing company kept. It was very much the same in New York.
The idea that the Last Resort were not true skinheads is absurd.
What other 60's subcultures did we Americans get wrong? Hippies? Greasers?
I never thought I'd find myself at this stage in life patriotically defending American skinheads but trust me: the fashion-obsessed, Bluebeat-crazy skinheads existed on this side of the drink as well. Black and white.
dundeedavie said:i was thinking more in the lines of MOD which seems to only translate well with europeans
Senator Jack said:Huh? I think perhaps the America our foreign friends see on television is being taken for what goes on over here. Like Mud, I knew plenty of the non-racist skinheads, black and white, back in the day, and, yes, I also met a fair share of them that got it all wrong. I have never met anyone with an allegiance to Mod, however, that got it all wrong. Though I admit, there's the 60s Los Angeles documentary Mondo Mod that really has nothing t do with Mod at all. Perhaps that's the image that has been projected.
Regards,
Senator Jack
Rooster said:\ Thanks, that's one of my favs.
Senator Jack said:I'm trying hard not be insulted. The Empire State Soul Club was a NY Mod scene a good decade before Autin Powers, so to suggest that the NY scene sprung from the film is a bit off-base. True, we do have a contingent at Subway Soul (myself included) that prefer the continetal suit/mini-dress/go-go boot look of Mod, but that may be because from what we've seen of the Northern Soul fashions that abounded at Wigan...well, let's just say it ain't us.
Regards,
Senator Jack
Senator Jack said:Do you mean 'you' as in the general or in the specific? I don't think I even posted in the smoking thread.
I'm unsure of your anger here - first with Mud and now me. We're simply defending the people we knew/know. I've written about this before. The vintage appreciation scene is too small for 'hipper than thou' and 'you got it all wrong' attitudes. And please don't take offense; I've laid it into my good friends in the Mod/Swing/Rockabilly scenes for having that very attitude.
Regards,
Senator Jack
MudInYerEye said:Where is Salv when we need him? He was skinhead the first time around! Settle our hash, man!
If the kids are united they will nver be divided,
Sincerely,
Joe Hawkins.
:eusa_doh:BeBopBaby said:The friend put the suit in the washer and dryer after he wore it to give it back to hubby clean and ruined it.
Hey, thanks! That tale about your hubby's sharkskin sure is one of heartbreak and sadness There should be a law about something like that.BeBopBaby said:Rooster - great suit! I'm green with envy.
I bought a suit cut exactly like the one you are wearing but it was green and black sharkskin for my hubby. It was hubby's favorite suit until he lent it to a friend to wear to a wedding who didn't have a suit. The friend put the suit in the washer and dryer after he wore it to give it back to hubby clean and ruined it. I am still baffled over how ompletely clueless the friend is. We still mourn the loss of that suit - it was perfect. And I've never been able to find a replacement.
Culled from blurry teenage memories.dundeedavie said:interesting references
BeBopBaby said:...The friend put the suit in the washer and dryer after he wore it to give it back to hubby clean and ruined it. I am still baffled over how ompletely clueless the friend is. We still mourn the loss of that suit - it was perfect. And I've never been able to find a replacement.