Knox Twenty Five Heads Up

[Kilroy]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52383&item=140020067627

I won this hat a couple of weeks ago. It turned out to be full of moth bites. Some big, some small,
I counted up to twenty five. One of them went all the way through the brim. The vendor gave me a full refund
so, I have no gripes. Well, I do have one gripe. The hat fit me like a glove.

Anyway, heads up.

 

[Nick Charles]

Thanks a bunch, I had already bid on the hat and now I have the question out to the seller about any holes. His description doesn't say "holes" How bad were the bites, I can live with nicks here and there.

 

[Tony in Tarzana]

I see he's re-listed it and the ad now does mention the moth bites.

 

[scotrace]

"New condition" !

The inside looks new. But if it has a hole through the felt, that ain't nu.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Maybe the hole was new?

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[astaire]

Thanks for the warning

i see these OR-looking hats from time to time. Considering their original prices, this is a $25 and i saw a dobbs forty a couple of weeks ago, i thought they were a bit expensive for a hat without the cavanagh edge.

is there a reason why these hats were so highly valued then?

Thanks all.

 

[Nick Charles]

OK I won this hat for $8.00 do you thinks its and eight dollar hat Kilroy?

We'll see.

 

[Dinerman]

eight bucks is a pretty good price for any hat in my book. Though I don't know about the whole homburg/ beater dichotomy

 

[Kilroy]

Nick,
When someone advertises an old item as ''in new condition,'' I always take that to mean the item
is in excellent condition. Not really like new, but nice. The only thing that can ever be ''new'' is new.

Before I asked for a refund, I asked myself this question. How much would I have paid for this hat if I
had seen it in person? The answer is I would of passed.
I could of cleaned it up and brushed and sanded, and blended in most of the moth bites. I might of even
worked up some kind of felt putty to fill in the big holes, but, that's not what I agreed to buy. It wasn't
worth it to me. There are too many other good hats to be had.

If you have the time, you may make a nice hat out of it. I hope you do.

Best regards,

Kilroy

 

[tonyb]

And if you don't, Nick, lemme know. I'm a sucker for vintage beaters, as you well know.

 

[Andykev]

ASK ASK ASK

I have experienced the same horror, when the hat was described as "wonderful". Wonderful what? Ventilated?

"You are bidding on this Long Oval Rim Hat size 7 1/8. It is in new condition. It was made by Knox Twenty-Five of Knox New York for Joske's of Texas. Good Luck and happy bidding."

This is bad, and I can't say "intentional". Some, ok, MANY people just DON'T know SQUAT about hats. To them, they were honestly describing it. What? It was not worn out like a shirt, or old socks? Hats? what are those?

Again, and I have posted this again and again, ASK if there is damage to the hat with mothing or other problems.

From the picture associated with this hat, you can see the the liner is stained, and the sweatband "band" is worn. RED FLAG.

 

[Matt Deckard]

Very sad when someone uses the word new with shoddy goods.

 

[Nick Charles]

well I'll let you guys know how it turns out.

 

[Baron Kurtz]

i just had the same thing happen with a Mallory. Arrived with at least 2 large holes right through the felt, and much moth trailing etc ...

"This is a hat in excellent condition in its original box and even has the original receipts/order forms ... "

oh well. live and learn. I've never had problems with sellers when i try to return something ...

bk

 

[Nick Charles]

Well I got the hat. I really don't have a problem with the condition. I had my wife look at it and she harly noticed the bites. There is one that is penpoint size but not really that bad.(No offense to Kilroy) I like the hat and will wear it often. Hell I would have paid $20 in a store if I looked at it first. Nice leather, soft and pliable no wear on it. I'll get some pics this weekend.

 

[Feraud]

I am glad you are happy with the hat. I do not mind a moth bite here or there but sellers should really inform themselves to what "like new" means.

 

[Kilroy]

Sounds like it found a happy home. I'm glad you're happy with it.

 

[Mr. Sable]

I reckon there ain't nuthin' wrong with a few moth bites...

...as long as it doesn't get out of hand.

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