Joker's hat

[mc713]

I am trying to find a very specific style of hat. It appears to be a telescopic fedora with a wide brim. It is the hat that Jack Nicholson wore in the 1989 Batman film when he played the joker. I would like to find this hat in black. Does anyone know what style hat this is called or where I can get one?

 

[John Galt]

I've seen these flat topped hats with a little taper called gaucho hats. They can be made using a fez block, I imagine.

A low-crowned 1950's style cowboy hat could probably be telescoped (upside down on a flat surface using a flat bottomed cup), and brim ironed to get this look.

Mr. Ermatinger's book explains how to telescope a hat like this.

 

[T Jones]

here's a few images of Nicholson's Joker Hat....

Looks like it's a wide brimmed hat, (2 7/8, 3' ?), flanged with a fedora curl, (as seen in the first pic). The second pic shows the brim snapped all the way down as opposed to being ironed flat.

Here he is as the psychotic gangster,"Jack Napier", before he became the Joker....notice the hat. It looks the same as his Joker Hat, except that it's black...

 

[Edward]

Something akin to an Akubra Federation, given a telescopic bash, woild do the job nicely. If you want Napier black, or the moonstone grey one the joker also wears, from memory. If you want the purple, I think you'll be into a custom job...

 

[Bruce Wayne]

It is a flat top pork pie with a wide brim.

 

[fedoracentric]

Never thought of a "pork pie" as having a "wide brim."

 

[ingineer]

Portrait of American Physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer Wearing a Porkpie Hat

Richard

 

[fedoracentric]

Just doesn't ring as a porkpie to me. That looks more like a round creased western, not a pork pie. To me a porkpie is s shorter crown than Oppenheimer's above and a very short brim 2-3/8 inches or less. Often with the brim flipped up all the way around, sometimes with a flat brim.
Like so...

That is what I envision when someone says porkpie.

 

[John Galt]

Never thought of a "pork pie" as having a "wide brim."

There is a lot of variety in the style, but I don't really think it is a "pork pie" hat, technically. A true pork pie hat is folded over on the telescope crown, like a ... Pork pie. The Joker's hat (from the photos I looked up) is flat topped.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pork_pie_hat

 

[ingineer]

I understand, that is the modern interpretation of a porkpie,
Perhaps not the 1940's vision of one.
Another pic of Oppie"s
http://photos.lbl.gov/viewphoto.php?albumId=129002&imageId=4717022
If you bought a Bushman and creased it similar to the OP's request you'd come pretty close
Richard

 

[ingineer]

Everything changes:
http://news.muckety.com/2013/10/06/like-chemistry-the-pork-pie-is-about-transformation/44431
Richard

 

[John Galt]

From the Wikipedia page example photo:

 

[T Jones]

If you bought a Bushman and creased it similar to the OP's request you'd come pretty close
Richard

Yup. I was going to post pics of both the Bushman and the Squatter earlier, except that neither of those two hats have a color that matches the Joker Hat....

Akubra "Squatter"....the "Bushman" would look similar with that same porkpie crease

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Pork pie hat 1

Flat top pork pie

 

[Rogera]

Terry, ingineer, I think y'all nailed it with the squatter.

 

[fedoracentric]

Pork pie hat 1

Flat top pork pie

None of which looks like the Joker's hat.

 

[John Galt]

I agree that it does not look like a pork pie. I can't say with certainty, but the joker hat looks like a real flat top. Like this costume hat sold contemporaneously with the 1989 movie:

And this real hat, found online:

 

[Edward]

Looks like a Hassidic hat. Again, though, it's unlikely you'll find the purple stock..

 

[bowlerman]

I think mc 713 said they wanted it in black, yes?
My first thought was with John Galt. Knowing how Nicholson played the character and everything, definitely more of a Spanish flair than a Hasidic. The gaucho hat immediately came to mind.
Hard to find, but you could go custom.

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[T Jones]

I dunno. Here's a couple pictures of Nicholson's "Jack Napier" costume. Enlarged, the hat seems to show, what looks to be, an obvious Porkpie crease....there also seems to be a visible ridge around the top of the hat for a porkpie.