TraderRic
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J.L. Powell, www.jlpowellusa.com, and British Sporting ltd., www.bsaltd.com, both carry them. Quite high end, though.
Tomasso said:Them newfangled elastic jobs have been around since the 1850's.
Solid Citizen said:Dating myself but back in high school in the
mid 1960's , Jodhpurs as pictured by Warbaby,
were a VERY preppy thing at the time. Local
shoe stores carried them well under $40.00
Solid Citizen
PS "Congress Gaiters" we called
them Beatle Boots, but with a
more prominent stacked Cuban
heel. Flagg Brothers shoes carried
them
I know i'm right. Jodhpurs are a specific type of riding pants, usually worn by children. Jodhpur boots are the riding boots made to wear with jodhpurs or with breeches and 1/2 chaps.Warbaby said:just_me - You're absolutely right about the nomenclature, but back in the day we just called them Jodphurs and it didn't occur to me to call them by their proper name.
So did President Reagan. Although he traded them in for Western duds early on in his political career when one of his handlers feared that by wearing equestrian garb he'd risked being taken as an Eastern sissy.Solid Citizen said:Gen. Douglas MacArthur wore them.
H.Johnson said:Maybe it's just the photograph, maybe Her Majesty has been caught in an instant when she was leaning forward to give her mount an aid, but from this view Mr. Reagan appears to have a much better seat...I think that this shows that before 'riding western' as a political gesture, he learned to 'ride English' properly.
Oh, and why not call Jodphur boots, boots? It's only one more syllable, after all...
Oh, and being pedantic, the full title of the riding attire would be Jodhpur (note the upper case - it's a place) trousers. Not all riding trousers are in the Jodphur style, of course. But let's not get into pedantic discussions....
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Lone_Ranger said:You are correct!
In 1937 Second Lieutenant Reagan was assigned to the Officers Reserve Corps of the Cavalry. He learned to ride at the US Army Cavalry School at Ft Reily, Kansas. Properly, like an officer.
His Secret Service Code Name "Stagecoach" may have been a bit of typecasting. Once a reporter asked Reagan about his ranch in California, making a "cowboy" reference, Reagan bristled and said "we ride jumping horses" at the ranch.
The big gray Arabian thoroughbred El Alamein, Mr Reagan is riding in the one picture was presented to him by Mexican President Jorge, while he was POTUS.
I always thought that, flared riding pants that are designed to be worn with tall English boots, are "Breeches" rather than Jodphurs which are worn with the ankle length boots.
Even breeches today are not very flared, unless you get a reenactor style, which in turn would get you sneered at among "traditional" horsey folk (traditional meaning "what people do now").Lone_Ranger said:I always thought that, flared riding pants that are designed to be worn with tall English boots, are "Breeches" rather than Jodphurs which are worn with the ankle length boots.
Actually, Her Majesty is riding more in hunt seat style, with her legs more under her. Reagan has his legs pushed too far forward.H.Johnson said:Maybe it's just the photograph, maybe Her Majesty has been caught in an instant when she was leaning forward to give her mount an aid, but from this view Mr. Reagan appears to have a much better seat...I think that this shows that before 'riding western' as a political gesture, he learned to 'ride English' properly.
H.Johnson said:Oh, and why not call Jodphur boots, boots? It's only one more syllable, after all...
Oh, and being pedantic, the full title of the riding attire would be Jodhpur (note the upper case - it's a place) trousers. Not all riding trousers are in the Jodphur style, of course. But let's not get into pedantic discussions....
W
Though none of the modern riding pants are flared, you are correct in that breeches are worn with tall boots. The part of the pants below the knee are very tight and go only part way down the bottom half of the leg so material does not bunch up in the ankle of the boot. Jodhpurs, on the other hand, go all the way down past the ankle and have an elastic stirrup that goes under the foot of the jodhpur or paddock boot to keep the pants from sliding up the leg while riding.Lone_Ranger said:I always thought that, flared riding pants that are designed to be worn with tall English boots, are "Breeches" rather than Jodphurs which are worn with the ankle length boots.
H.Johnson said:Fascinating! I didn't know that about RR. HM's long-time favourite horse was also a grey, now deceased, called Monarch. I don't recognise her mount in the photograph. Was it taken on a visit to the US, I wonder?
I haven't seen a pair of those in many, many, many (yes, I'm old ) years, but everyone I knew just called them breeches. The buttons were eventually replaced with zippers and then velcro.Lone_Ranger said:just_me, is there a proper term for the riding pants that button up the outside of the leg? Or are they still considered breeches? (Like a Vaquero, or Napoleonic era cavalry)
just_me said:Actually, Her Majesty is riding more in hunt seat style, with her legs more under her. Reagan has his legs pushed too far forward.
I sometimes spell things incorrectly, for which I apologise. The word is, of course, Jodhpur. I should know that, as I visited the area a few years ago and found it captiviating. In England we have the same naming convention, Jodhpur and Jodhpur boot. May we agree that Jodhpur boots should always be called boots?
I noticed that you go back and forth on spelling (as do a lot of people), but the correct spelling is Jodhpur. Though, those of us who ride call the pants Jodhpurs and the boots Jodhpur boots.
BellyTank said:"Modern", non-traditional Jodhpurs/Riding breeches are stretch fabric, no need for roominess. Brown breeches WERE actually pretty popular (in some circles)in 1930s Germany...
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