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is monkeypants in style lately?

Jasonissm

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I dont think a jacket would fit in it, looking at it I think even a denim jacket won't fit, a folded raincoat indeed might fit, or shopping totebag, perhaps a spare tshirt, or towel if you do light hiking perhaps and need a spare tshirt, drinking bottle might fit too, but the thing is it located on your back and you can't organize it because you can't really see it.
I meant lightweight like linen shirts, or a shirt jacket, something like a packable UV layer would fit, I have some Kapital cargo pants with a massive pocket and my jacket just barely fits, with the monkey pants it should fit it easily as the pocket is much larger.

In summer I wear long layers only for UV protection as I prefer it to sunscreen, not for any warmth or anything so it's usually very thin or packable layer.
 

mumpy

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I dont think a jacket would fit in it, looking at it I think even a denim jacket won't fit, a folded raincoat indeed might fit, or shopping totebag, perhaps a spare tshirt, or towel if you do light hiking perhaps and need a spare tshirt, drinking bottle might fit too, but the thing is it located on your back and you can't organize it because you can't really see it.
Maybe a map to show you how to get to the nearest location to buy some normal cargo pants? Haha (joking)
 

Edward

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It looks like the pocket you would use to store your dog’s poo

Now that could be an idea - I'm forever finding poo bags spilling out of all my trousers.... maybe a dedicated pocket for (unused!) poo bags for the Young Master is a good idea....

Wow - Monkey Pants - really?

The placement of the rear pocket/pouch is an ideal location for a Flatulence Detection device to help relieve the methane gas crisis on our climate. It would alert the wearer (and any bystanders) of the impending gas leak to avoid anyone keeling over.

Maybe Monkey Pants do have a purpose after all!

What you need to do is design one of those charcoal pads you can get in underpants that can be inserted into that pocket - cheaper than multiple pairs of underwear, could be a seller!


OK I went on with my purchase because it clearly stirs emotion in people :D

honestly I don't really care much for the back pocket, but the side cargo pockets are just at perfect location

I spent much of my teens and well into my twenties wearing what we called "combat trousers", then the fashion industry labelled "cargo pants". I remember when they came into fashion in the mid 90s - the sense of absolute outrage at fashion 'stealing' our clothes, when we'd been wearing them for five years already, the sense of pride that ours were (despite us being angry, young, radical, pacifist, punks) the "real thing", bought from the military surplus place...(you don't see those so much now - most that have survived are at least 80% new, civilian, camping supplies now)... I remember wearing West German ones to begin with, then later some great Dutch ones with a wider leg and nicer cloth. Used to find the thigh pockets great for storing bits.

Not had a pair in many years now, though I'm tempted (spend Summers in the hellheat of Southern England) to pick up a pair or two for those accursed no-jacket days in May to September. WW2 repro spec now, of course.

I have a couple of pairs of them, in different variations from different repro makers. Bronson are good generally and I like their monkey pants. They did a run of modified ones with front pockets, lowering the side cargo pockets to make room them. I put nothing in the back pocket. The side pockets tend to spill contents because they are so loose and baggy and big. They are good for stashing a lot of stuff but not well organized or secure. But they are part of the evolutionary heritage of military fatigue pants and they look gnarly. Even though they are not very practical I have a soft spot for them. I just put up with the odd pockets as best I can.

Bronson's stuff in general loooks great. I have two of their A3 caps and two Daisy Maes, which are every bit as good as the uber-pricey stuff (the only flaw is the surplus 's' on the logo on the A3 caps, but given I'm wearing them as a civilian and not a reenactor....). I'd buy more from them, but their sizing is uniformly two to three sizes below what I'd need on the waist, and one size below what I'd need on the top. Shae - they do a lot of the Japanese designs that I really like but could never afford / justify the money in.

I think it's more that they didn't have time to design and test, they needed to crank out gear ASAP, and they wanted big pockets so GIs could carry as much as possible.

Refinements came later, a lot of stuff went out nearly or completely untested, and the boys dealt with it as best they could, often improvising and Jerry rigging.

Indeed. IT's the interesting thing about the various evolutions of military gear generally, but especially across wartime periods. No less fascinating is the journey onwards to fashion. While I have an instinctive distaste for the idea of following mainstream fashion, I did find great amusement in the period when camouflage was fashionable. There's an inherent contradiction between design intent and fashion outcome right there!


Thanks for sharing, having learned about the original intent of the pocket, I can definitely see it as a viable spot especially during summer to go bagless but still carry a light shirt/jacket and be able to tuck it away. I usually wear a light jacket or shirt for UV protection which doubles as storage but I take it off in the evening or indoors and just carry it around. Having a pocket to stow it away in would be nice but how comfortable it will be, I wonder?

I dont think a jacket would fit in it, looking at it I think even a denim jacket won't fit, a folded raincoat indeed might fit, or shopping totebag, perhaps a spare tshirt, or towel if you do light hiking perhaps and need a spare tshirt, drinking bottle might fit too, but the thing is it located on your back and you can't organize it because you can't really see it.

Definitely not the spot for something you need to get to in a hurry.
 

navetsea

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I remember my first long pants was actually a fatigue denim pants, because it has patch pocket and not a 5 pocket jeans, but I just didn't know the name since it was in 86 or something and I was in elementary school, my first cargo pants probably from 88 and I kept wearing them as I outgrew them but it was a rare pants so I asked the leg to be lengthened with a strip of fabrics because I love the pants, we can't wear anything military those days because the regime in power was military backed, and they forbade the use of anything resembles military by civi, I bought military canteen and daypack backpack for boyscouting that was allowed because it was not categorized as clothes
Now that could be an idea - I'm forever finding poo bags spilling out of all my trousers.... maybe a dedicated pocket for (unused!) poo bags for the Young Master is a good idea....



What you need to do is design one of those charcoal pads you can get in underpants that can be inserted into that pocket - cheaper than multiple pairs of underwear, could be a seller!




I spent much of my teens and well into my twenties wearing what we called "combat trousers", then the fashion industry labelled "cargo pants". I remember when they came into fashion in the mid 90s - the sense of absolute outrage at fashion 'stealing' our clothes, when we'd been wearing them for five years already, the sense of pride that ours were (despite us being angry, young, radical, pacifist, punks) the "real thing", bought from the military surplus place...(you don't see those so much now - most that have survived are at least 80% new, civilian, camping supplies now)... I remember wearing West German ones to begin with, then later some great Dutch ones with a wider leg and nicer cloth. Used to find the thigh pockets great for storing bits.

Not had a pair in many years now, though I'm tempted (spend Summers in the hellheat of Southern England) to pick up a pair or two for those accursed no-jacket days in May to September. WW2 repro spec now, of course.



Bronson's stuff in general loooks great. I have two of their A3 caps and two Daisy Maes, which are every bit as good as the uber-pricey stuff (the only flaw is the surplus 's' on the logo on the A3 caps, but given I'm wearing them as a civilian and not a reenactor....). I'd buy more from them, but their sizing is uniformly two to three sizes below what I'd need on the waist, and one size below what I'd need on the top. Shae - they do a lot of the Japanese designs that I really like but could never afford / justify the money in.



Indeed. IT's the interesting thing about the various evolutions of military gear generally, but especially across wartime periods. No less fascinating is the journey onwards to fashion. While I have an instinctive distaste for the idea of following mainstream fashion, I did find great amusement in the period when camouflage was fashionable. There's an inherent contradiction between design intent and fashion outcome right there!






Definitely not the spot for something you need to get to in a hurry.
 

navetsea

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I use mto route, its made from Herring Bone Twill, pretty thick as you see from the creases, the back pocket fits me fine, actually my biker wallet never feel this save on a bike ride or when squatting, i like this pants the hip patch pocket almost like fatique pants but a bit cooler and olive green is always pleasant, the waistline is a bit highrise on me, but I like it because it tapers to my waist and won't sag. Monkey pants is FINE in my book
 

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I use mto route, its made from Herring Bone Twill, pretty thick as you see from the creases, the back pocket fits me fine, actually my biker wallet never feel this save on a bike ride or when squatting, i like this pants the hip patch pocket almost like fatique pants but a bit cooler and olive green is always pleasant, the waistline is a bit highrise on me, but I like it because it tapers to my waist and won't sag. Monkey pants is FINE in my book
Looks better on you than I would have expected with these trousers.
 

navetsea

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Looks better on you than I would have expected with these trousers.
Thanks, surprise me too, maybe because this tailor turned out to be the brother of another tailor I custom ordered my double knee jeans they even share workshop just an alternate brand no wonder when I compared the two, most of their fabrics choice looks alike just different models and different label and leather patch, I think he use my old measurement spec to make this one so this fit me like my jeans do and not the typical wide leg fit. and I'm happy the rear pocket is high and not affected by my leg movement.
 

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I use mto route, its made from Herring Bone Twill, pretty thick as you see from the creases, the back pocket fits me fine, actually my biker wallet never feel this save on a bike ride or when squatting, i like this pants the hip patch pocket almost like fatique pants but a bit cooler and olive green is always pleasant, the waistline is a bit highrise on me, but I like it because it tapers to my waist and won't sag. Monkey pants is FINE in my book

Looks pretty good actually, to my surprise.

The rear pocket gives a work pants/carpenter pants sort of vibe.
 

AHP91

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Cool use of military style in the mainstream. I am wearing original WW2 tanker bibs in a cold climate to work, but they also look cool on the street. They have funky zippers and cool snaps.

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