I.E.D., anyone have it?

[Baron Kurtz]

2 examples of where this goes very wrong.

1) The Purdue (my current university) Alcohol and Drugs Awareness coordinator - don't even get me started on the lack of need for such a person - encouraged people who wanted to quit smoking to take some prescription anti-depressant. Apparently it also has effects on addiction. I worte a letter to the paper that published the words of this moron. I tried to get her sacked. To no avail. The paper edited my letter for "libellous content" and the office of administrators didn't get back to me.

2) A coworker had high blood pressure (his wife was having a kid, he was trying to publish a paper, his visa was being renewed .. lots of stress). His GP prescribed an SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor). That's right, a potentially addictive, suicide inducing, antidepressant for high blood pressure!

My point: These doctors, and non health professionals in the case of the Purdue alcohol woman, are so addicted to the benefits they get from drug companies that they will prescribe their products for any illness. Really, should someone be taking mind, and personality altering drugs to quit smoking or reduce blood pressure? Methinks not. This has become insane ...

bk

 

[Maj.Nick Danger]

2 examples of where this goes very wrong.

1) The Purdue (my current university) Alcohol and Drugs Awareness coordinator - don't even get me started on the lack of need for such a person - encouraged people who wanted to quit smoking to take some prescription anti-depressant. Apparently it also has effects on addiction. I worte a letter to the paper that published the words of this moron. I tried to get her sacked. To no avail. The paper edited my letter for "libellous content" and the office of administrators didn't get back to me.

2) A coworker had high blood pressure (his wife was having a kid, he was trying to publish a paper, his visa was being renewed .. lots of stress). His GP prescribed an SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor). That's right, a potentially addictive, suicide inducing, antidepressant for high blood pressure!

My point: These doctors, and non health professionals in the case of the Purdue alcohol woman, are so addicted to the benefits they get from drug companies that they will prescribe their products for any illness. Really, should someone be taking mind, and personality altering drugs to quit smoking or reduce blood pressure? Methinks not. This has become insane ...

bk

I quite agree Baron. I know from personal experience of what Prozac did to my ex.
Many doctors have become drug pushing quacks that have absolutely no intention of actually curing a patient's ills. On the contrary, there's far more money in keeping people sick, and thus under their spell.

 

[Baron Kurtz]

One of my friends will be graduating from med school shortly. He hasn't paid for lunch for three years. The reps from drug companies are encouraged to take the med students out to lunch and dinner. Catch 'em early, as it were. Apparently this will make it more likely that they will prescribe the drugs produced by that company - and prescribe more of them - when they become GPs.

Sickening ...

bk

 

[Paisley]

I think a lot of doctors, like drug dealers, just want to keep you coming back. But, according to what I've read, doctors in ancient China didn't get paid unless their patients got better.

I now tend to read medical books instead of going to doctors. I learned from a yoga book how to unpinch the nerves in my spine, and haven't been to the chiropractor since. I give my dog a special diet and lots of supplements for his oral melanoma. (He was on chemo and anti-inflammatory drugs, but he couldn't tolerate them.) His oncologist gave him two months to live without it--that was four months ago. Not only would you never know my dog was sick, but he's so active you wouldn't think he's a senior dog. And the information I learned from a book on sinuses has kept me from suffering, except rarely, from allergies.

I know there are compassionate doctors out there, but the way the system works, there is an incentive to keep patients on drugs.

 

[Baron Kurtz]

The thing with drugs is that they tend to mask symptoms, making it seem like they're working. but they generally don't address the root causes of our problems. This is one of the reasons i don't take 'em.

For depression see a psychoanalyst. Don't waste the money on drugs. Talk to someone about your problems.

Of course, that doesn't make ya spend nearly so much money in the long run. Because it tends to work to sort out the problem!

bk

 

[Maj.Nick Danger]

I am a staunch advocate of prevention.

Always believed the old adage, "you are what you eat". It always made more sense to me to just not make myself sick with stress, and toxic substances.

I think I learned from watching my parents generation suffer from poor health due to not eating a healthful diet, and from excessive drinking and smoking.

 

[Benny Holiday]

You must have a lot of car parts laying around there Benny.

Regards,

J

Sure I do, but they're all quality Chevy parts! lol

Baron, I never realised the relationship between doctors and pharmaceutical companies was established so early on in the doctors' careers, or promoted by the company reps so aggressively.

Worrisome information, to say the least.

 

[Rosie]

Daddy nearly choked on his adult beverage and said "I don't know, honey, something about lizards I guess..."

The wording you used for this is hilarious, lol. I'm cracking up over here.

My point: These doctors, and non health professionals in the case of the Purdue alcohol woman, are so addicted to the benefits they get from drug companies that they will prescribe their products for any illness. Really, should someone be taking mind, and personality altering drugs to quit smoking or reduce blood pressure? Methinks not. This has become insane ...

bk

After my dad died, I was understandably sad. It wasn't a sadness that affected my daily life but the "regular" (for lack of a better description) sadness that comes along with the death of a loved one. I went to see my doctor, not because of the sadness but because it was just check up time and she wanted to prescribe me zoloft because in response to her question "How have you been feeling?" (she's been my family doctor for years and knew my dad had recently passed away) I replied, "I don't know, a little sad, a little depressed".

As someone said, this happens way too often. My cousin had her wisdom tooth pulled about two months ago and her doctor wrote her a prescription for valium before she even had a chance to actually feel any pain.

 

[jake_fink]

oops.

a misread.

IED not IUD.

[huh]

 

[jamespowers]

After my dad died, I was understandably sad. It wasn't a sadness that affected my daily life but the "regular" (for lack of a better description) sadness that comes along with the death of a loved one. I went to see my doctor, not because of the sadness but because it was just check up time and she wanted to prescribe me zoloft because in response to her question "How have you been feeling?" (she's been my family doctor for years and knew my dad had recently passed away) I replied, "I don't know, a little sad, a little depressed".

Same thing happened with me when my mother and grandmother passed away within 11 days of each other. I went to the doctor because I couldn't sleep and a few other things. He said I had "anxiety" and prescribed something like Zoloft! All I needed to know is that it wasn't anything physical wrong with me so I could just give it the old "its all in your mind thing." [huh]
I think the garbage can ate my pills. It has never looked more relaxed.

Regards,

J

 

[Lincsong]

Isn't this why Las Vegas is there? To get rid of all the tension, anxiety and stress of life.lol

 

[jamespowers]

Isn't this why Las Vegas is there? To get rid of all the tension, anxiety and stress of life. lol

There is nothing there that I couldn't get elsewhere at about half the price.

Regards to all,

J

 

[PrettySquareGal]

After my dad died, I was understandably sad. It wasn't a sadness that affected my daily life but the "regular" (for lack of a better description) sadness that comes along with the death of a loved one. I went to see my doctor, not because of the sadness but because it was just check up time and she wanted to prescribe me zoloft because in response to her question "How have you been feeling?" (she's been my family doctor for years and knew my dad had recently passed away) I replied, "I don't know, a little sad, a little depressed".

Speaking from my background as a counselor, what you had was called a situational depression or sadness which is normal. When deciding whether to prescribe there's something called the GAF, global assessment of functioning. As you mentioned, it didn't affect your ability to handle things. Your example of having a normal sadness yet being offered a psychotropic medication is exactly the kind of thing that is so dangerous and unethical yet frighteningly common.

 

[PrettySquareGal]

1) The Purdue (my current university) Alcohol and Drugs Awareness coordinator - don't even get me started on the lack of need for such a person - encouraged people who wanted to quit smoking to take some prescription anti-depressant. Apparently it also has effects on addiction. I worte a letter to the paper that published the words of this moron. I tried to get her sacked. To no avail. The paper edited my letter for "libellous content" and the office of administrators didn't get back to me.bk

It was probably Zyban. Zyban help me quit smoking. Here's how. I went to a smoking cessation group, and learned that taking Zyban was part of being compliant with the treatment. It was never explained to the group that Zyban is an anti-depressant. I stated that I wanted the group support but not Zyban. The group leader got so self-righteous and forceful that I left the group and swore I'd never smoke again. That was almost seven years ago. :eusa_clap

 

[Baron Kurtz]

Zyban ... that's the very stuff (you know, it is only a MILD antidepressant, mildly psychoactive!)



bk

 

[jamespowers]

The group leader got so self-righteous and forceful that I left the group and swore I'd never smoke again. That was almost seven years ago. :eusa_clap

Then the smoking cessation group worked---just not in the way they intended.

Regards,

J

 

[otterhound]

intermittent explosive disorder

This happens to me whenever I eat too many beans.

 

[jamespowers]

This happens to me whenever I eat too many beans.

Hmmm... Rice and green vegetables does it for me.

Regards,

J

 

[Twitch]

This is such bullcrap! Everything is a disease. Obesity and now this. Take some dope and everything will be ok. It's simply another way people shun their responsibilities to society playing the victim.:rage:

Do you all remember a time when the only drug on TV ads was aspirin? I'm personally sick to death of seeing drugs manufacturers hawking their wares at every commercial break. Now you have hypochondriacts telling their doctor what they think they should be taking. Nonsense.

"Side effect may include anal seepage, watery eyes, rectal itching, double vision, blood clots, uncontrolled erections, temporary blindness, intense body odor, bloating, continious flatulance,........."lol

 

[Baron Kurtz]

Coccaro said the disorder involves inadequate production or functioning of serotonin, a mood-regulating and behavior-inhibiting brain chemical. Treatment with antidepressants, including those that target serotonin receptors in the brain, is often helpful, along with behavior therapy akin to anger management, Coccaro said.

Another excuse to give people SSRIs. These researchers are just looking to get their cut from the drug companies.

bk