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Horse vs Steer vs Goat Premium Half Belt

TheDonEffect

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Oh wait I had Jerky and Kelpie mixed up, Kelpie may be the way, since Unfinished HH won't be an option since it only comes in black. And Vicenza as well.
 

zebedee

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Ohh need to read up on Vicenza.
Vicenza is slightly pebbly, like goat, flexible and lighter than fqhh. It has a drier hand and will take longer to patina, but is great when it does. Dark seal is really nice and blackened brown is great, too - those are the two that I know about. Goat is cheaper, highly abrasion-resistant and a little lighter, but you can't go wrong with either. Another option is jerky horsehide - lighter, wears through to russet. It's tough like the others, but has a softer feel and is easy to wear immediately, like goat. No idea about Kelpie, but I think stocks are low, so hurry.

Dark seal Vicenza:

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Commisar

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Vicenza is slightly pebbly, like goat, flexible and lighter than fqhh. It has a drier hand and will take longer to patina, but is great when it does. Dark seal is really nice and blackened brown is great, too - those are the two that I know about. Goat is cheaper, highly abrasion-resistant and a little lighter, but you can't go wrong with either. Another option is jerky horsehide - lighter, wears through to russet. It's tough like the others, but has a softer feel and is easy to wear immediately, like goat.

Dark seal Vicenza:

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So many options.

At this point I'm between the "brown" Pinnacle horsehide and the darkest russet Goatskin Aero can find. Seal Goatskin is such a dark brown it's almost black.
 

zebedee

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So many options.

At this point I'm between the "brown" Pinnacle horsehide and the darkest russet Goatskin Aero can find. Seal Goatskin is such a dark brown it's almost black.
It's a really nice dark brown, though. Russet seems the way to go. It'll look outstanding.
 

nattevagten

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If you are looking at a black jacket, I would suggest ask Holly for the lighter weight CXFQHH. It is a great combination of CXL's beauty & is very comfortable, drapes extremely well
The lighter-weight CXFQHH indeed almost wears like lambskin, no stiffness whatsoever.

I chose brown CXFQHH for my premier HB as inspired by zebedee’s CXFQHH jacket, but it has not gone into production yet.
 
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zebedee

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The lighter-weight CXFQHH indeed almost wears like lambskin, no stiffness whatsoever.

I chose brown CXFQHH for my premier HB as inspired by zebedee’s CXFQHH jacket, but it has not gone into production yet.
I think the brown CXFQHH is their best hide, even though I think that Vicenza and goat both wear more comfortably. I didn't have to wait long at all for the CXFQHH to break in. Going for a walk in the rain sorts it. Aero's mid-weight hides are heavy enough for the majority of my subsequent Aeros to be mid-weight.

In terms of durability, there are infinitesimal differences as far as anything (except maybe sliding down a road) goes. I think that the factor is really drape. Eventually, even the thick hides drape, it's just a question of time. I found that goat, Vicenza and Jerky all had more immediate drape (goat by far), but after a month they're all similar. Goat's the most practical weight for the climates where I am now, but a proper Shanghai or Korean winter is slightly better-handled by horsehide. At that point, though, the layers underneath make most difference.
 
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trainspotter

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I think the brown CXFQHH is their best hide, even though I think that Vicenza and goat both wear more comfortably. I didn't have to wait long at all for the CXFQHH to break in. Going for a walk in the rain sorts it. Aero's mid-weight hides are heavy enough for the majority of my subsequent Aeros to be mid-weight.

In terms of durability, there are infinitesimal differences as far as anything (except maybe sliding down a road) goes. I think that the factor is really drape. Eventually, even the thick hides drape, it's just a question of time. I found that goat, Vicenza and Jerky all had more immediate drape (goat by far), but after a month they're all similar. Goat's the most practical weight for the climates where I am now, but a proper Shanghai or Korean winter is slightly better-handled by horsehide. At that point, though, the layers underneath make most difference.

My favourites in CXL fqhh are black & their signature natural

I just received 2 jackets ordered last month. One in thinner cxl, the other in 'normal' weight. The drape of the thinner cxl is dreamy - similar to lambskin but also more significant. Absolutely no break in required

The normal weight is the same old story though- will need a lot of hard work, patience & persistence to break in :)
 

TheDonEffect

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Yeah, I think the CXL FQHH for a Texas climate, coming from a Californian with a similar situation, may be a bit much, since breaking in a relatively heavy leather jacket when it's shorts season for most of the year is a big ask unless this it's a passion project. Even worse when you factor in Texas humidity.
 

Commisar

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Yeah, I think the CXL FQHH for a Texas climate, coming from a Californian with a similar situation, may be a bit much, since breaking in a relatively heavy leather jacket when it's shorts season for most of the year is a big ask unless this it's a passion project. Even worse when you factor in Texas humidity.
Exactly. At this point in between Russet Goatskin and Brown Pinnacle. Once I decide I'll update the thread.

Also..... This will not be my last Aero jacket, at all
 

Canuck Panda

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All, I've decided on brown Pinnacle horsehide for this jacket.

Thanks
Did you get a sample, can you please post a pic so we can see how dark is the brown. Thanks. Did the second shipment of the brown Pinnacle arrive at Aero already? I thought it was delayed...
 

Commisar

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Did you get a sample, can you please post a pic so we can see how dark is the brown. Thanks. Did the second shipment of the brown Pinnacle arrive at Aero already? I thought it was delayed...
I did not and afaik it hasn't arrived. I did talk to Horween about the leather and liked what they said.
 

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