I like the Himel one more, Terry. Yes, the vintage BK is cool too, but it's for the look. But I'm sure, as for the feel and leather quality, the Himel jacket is better. But of course, IMHO.Yes, I remember the wide cuff/sleeve discussion. I find that vintage jackets have wider sleeves wider cuffs. This BK has comfortable closures. The Heron is really narrow and the sleeves tapered which works well on that jacket.