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Woodtroll

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Browsing old episoides of Miami Vice, I ran across Willie.
In the episoide ''El Viejo (1986).''
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Interesting! I saw quite a few episodes of Miami Vice years ago but don't believe I ever saw that one. And Steve Buscemi too, maybe, from Boardwalk Empire?
 

Rmccamey

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Mark Hall Patton from Pawn Stars' has a hat which is incredibly similar to my Stetson

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it has the same telescope crown on top



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The bolero style hats don't show up here every day but there is certainly a market for them and they make some great looking hats, IMO. My Gannon is similar but I curled the brim to give it more of a western flair. I also know that @T Jones can build that exact hat at a price that is hard to beat, particularly if you have a donor felt.

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milandro

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Cheers @Rmccamey

I am really not so sure that my hat can be defined as " Bolero style" ( which is really the English name of what the Spaniards call " Sombrero Cordobés " ( Cordovan Hat) because that hasn't got, ever, a telescope crown.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordovan_hat

The telescope crown is important because a hat without a telescope crown made of felt , like mine, is very likely called an Amish Hat (Mark Hall Patton certainly wears an Amish straw hat but the black felt he wears had a telescope crown like mine)


Stetson has several hats which look like my hat (Stetson XXXX Amish model)


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Having had someone setting a pencil curl on the bound edge now my hat looks a bit like a Stetson Kings Row ( exept that model has a raw edge).


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Cheers @Rmccamey

I am really not so sure that my hat can be defined as " Bolero style" ( which is really the English name of what the Spaniards call " Sombrero Cordobés " ( Cordovan Hat) because that hasn't got, ever, a telescope crown.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordovan_hat

The telescope crown is important because a hat without a telescope crown made of felt , like mine, is very likely called an Amish Hat (Mark Hall Patton certainly wears an Amish straw hat but the black felt he wears had a telescope crown like mine)


Stetson has several hats which look like my hat (Stetson XXXX Amish model)


View attachment 575323

Having had someone setting a pencil curl on the bound edge now my hat looks a bit like a Stetson Kings Row ( exept that model has a raw edge).


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In regular use, the two styles look very similar. Most people seeing them worn won’t see the top of the crown and they will look nearly identical.

I think the telescope crown adds more character and probably more structure to the hat. Your Stetson looks great, too.
 
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I am really not so sure that my hat can be defined as " Bolero style"…
I agree. A Bolero style in the US at least, has a very identifiable upper crown shoulder where the crown breaks over to the top. Similar to the crown shoulder of a BOP. It can be seen from any angle. Hard to get the blocking correct.
 
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Rmccamey

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My apology for causing confusion by the use of a more general term (Bolero style) instead of the more specific term, telescope or telescope crown.
Cheers @Rmccamey

I am really not so sure that my hat can be defined as " Bolero style" ( which is really the English name of what the Spaniards call " Sombrero Cordobés " ( Cordovan Hat) because that hasn't got, ever, a telescope crown.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordovan_hat

The telescope crown is important because a hat without a telescope crown made of felt , like mine, is very likely called an Amish Hat (Mark Hall Patton certainly wears an Amish straw hat but the black felt he wears had a telescope crown like mine)


Stetson has several hats which look like my hat (Stetson XXXX Amish model)


View attachment 575323

Having had someone setting a pencil curl on the bound edge now my hat looks a bit like a Stetson Kings Row ( exept that model has a raw edge).


View attachment 575322
 

milandro

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No apology needed, ;), I suppose there are many names for the same thing in every language.

I was just remarking that the fact that a hat has a telescope crown may qualify that, or not, among a group or other.

I like your hat , very much, and being the brim, front and back, slightly pointing down makes me call it a " gambler" although I suppose most gamblers have the pencil curl and some have a ridge on the top of the crown.

Nomenclature is hardly univocal also in shops , and , at least in the NL, few have any real knowledge of the hat's names.
 
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