Hat Wearing pre-1960 vs. 2017

[jlee562]

I'm somewhat versed in the CalExit campaign and I'm totally lost on the point.

IMHO, the rise of "fast fashion" and the steady growth of post war consumerism are also factors in hat wearing. A quality fur felt hat, is a relatively expensive item, and seemingly regarded more as an accessory. Wearing towards the back of the head as opposed to straight on also seems to be more of a norm than an exception, which could also contribute to an ill fitting hat when 'properly' worn.

 

[Edward]

I live in Dublin, so not that much further.

MUst be an Irish thing, then. I find some of th dialect in the North is very much influeced by the Scottish connection, while other parts of it are more a 'same island' deal. Must as my weedgie friends whether it's a part of their dialect too. (Needless to say, They English haven't ever heard of it.)

 

[FedOregon]

Club soda here is sometimes called mineral water, or sparkling water. In Ecuador if you want water in a restaurant you need to say without gas or they bring you the mineral water, or sparkling water. IIRC, it was even more common in Florence, Aviano and Venice, Italy.

 

[KarlCrow]

In Ireland Google tells me it comes from the fact the company 'mineral waters distributers', used supply most soft fizzy drinks back in the days of yore.

 

[Wesslyn]

Here's your soda...

You want anything to drink with that?

Fits my Irish heritage. I'll take a Guinness.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Fits my Irish heritage. I'll take a Guinness.

Tis' the time of yr for a Half & Half; just don't make the mistake of calling it a Black & Tan. A fight just might break out!

 

[Wesslyn]

Tis' the time of yr for a Half & Half; just don't make the mistake of calling it a Black & Tan. A fight just might break out!

I've always called em black n blondes.
That's not too blasphemous, is it?

 

[Hurricane Jack]

I've always called em black n blondes.
That's not too blasphemous, is it?

We better ask Karl.

I got one once from a rookie barkeep who didn't know how to pour it. It ended up looking like dirty dishwater.

 

[KarlCrow]

A black n tan is amongst other things, a half Guinness half Smitwicks' pale ale (a browny red ale), I think a half and half is too. I'd be more partial to a Smitwicks' with a Guinness head, or a black witch snake bite (Guinness and cider), if I was mixing. A black and blonde must be Guinness mixed with cheep gutrot lager, given a choice I'd just have the lager. They stopped brewing guinness draft properly after diagio took over. The bottled guinness (not the bottled draft stuff) is still nice.

 

[moontheloon]

A black n tan is amongst other things, a half Guinness half Smitwicks' pale ale (a browny red ale), I think a half and half is too. I'd be more partial to a Smitwicks' with a Guinness head, or a black witch snake bite (Guinness and cider), if I was mixing. A black and blonde must be Guinness mixed with cheep gutrot lager, given a choice I'd just have the lager. They stopped brewing guinness draft properly after diagio took over. The bottled guinness (not the bottled draft stuff) is still nice.

do they drink Car Bombs in Ireland or is it just named after you ?

 

[KarlCrow]

do they drink Car Bombs in Ireland or is it just named after you ?

No idea what that is, but no, we traditionally use car bombs for killing eachother. P-)

 

[moontheloon]

No idea what that is, but no, we traditionally use car bombs for killing eachother. P-)

hahahaha ...

well here ... an Irish Car Bomb is where you drop a shot glass of Jameson into a half full Guinness and slam it ... sometimes bar keeps will put a little Baileys in the shot glass as well

quite tasty

 

[KarlCrow]

Called a Depth charge in my day, but could be called that now.

 

[suitedcboy]

Back to the original topic, in 1960 when I was a bit over 2 years old, I wore my dad's hat dropped over my eyes as the top of the crown stopped it at that point. In 2017 I like them perched about 1/2 to 3/4 inch above ears. Usually just a wee bit above level but sometimes tipped back a fair amount.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

A black n tan is amongst other things, a half Guinness half Smitwicks' pale ale (a browny red ale), I think a half and half is too.

It's made with Harps Pale Ale now since Guinness bought out Harps a few yrs ago. There used to be a version known by a dirty name made with Killian's Red.

Called a Depth charge in my day, but could be called that now.

Yep, & called a Landmine if you upgrade to either Redbreast or Green Spot instead of Jameson.

Karl, one night back in the 90's I ended up on the Vomit Comet, the last night bus coming out of Dublin & I was staying clear out near the end of the line. I'll have to share that story in a PM with you sometime since you might know of all the places at that time.

 

[Wesslyn]

hahahaha ...

well here ... an Irish Car Bomb is where you drop a shot glass of Jameson into a half full Guinness and slam it ... sometimes bar keeps will put a little Baileys in the shot glass as well

quite tasty

Very tasty, indeed.

 

[KarlCrow]

It's made with Harps Pale Ale now since Guinness bought out Harps a few yrs ago. There used to be a version known by a dirty name made with Killian's Red.

I reckon harps pale ale must be what they call Smitwicks' over there, harp is just their lager here. I've heard of Killian's but it always surprises Americans that we don't have it here. Apparently it has a high pint to taking a piss ratio just like sithwicks.

Yep, & called a Landmine if you upgrade to either Redbreast or Green Spot instead of Jameson.

no way could I do that to a redbreast.

Karl, one night back in the 90's I ended up on the Vomit Comet, the last night bus coming out of Dublin & I was staying clear out near the end of the line. I'll have to share that story in a PM with you sometime since you might know of all the places at that time.

I need to hear this story (-:. I don't remember the nineties so should know those places well.

 

[Edward]

Harp. Urgh. Last time I paid any attention to local ads in the old country, they were produly telling the Six Counties that "It's Our Thing." Horse pee in a glassis what it is. Vile.

In Ireland Google tells me it comes from the fact the company 'mineral waters distributers', used supply most soft fizzy drinks back in the days of yore.

Aha! That would make perfect sense. My Grandmother was born in 1919. I don't know if she remembered partition happening or not, (though she always called the Republic the Free State), but it seems she would have been of the right age for that to have influenced the language. The company must have carried on around the Larne Ballymena area.

do they drink Car Bombs in Ireland or is it just named after you ?

It's not a thing I'd ever heard of until I encountered "Irish" Americans. I think it's one of those New World inventions (like "corned beef and cabbage") that were invented by the diaspora, and over time have become confused as being genuine. Humour, typically of a very dark kind, was a popular way of dealing with the Troubles at their height when I was growing up in the North, but I suspect any bar putting that on the menu or even caught calling that would swiftly have had an issue, given that you wouldn't have had to throw a stone very far from most of them to hit somebody who'd lost a relative in a carbombing or knew someone who did. These days, it's the sort of thing a lot of us would find hilarious if one of our own came out with it, and pretty damn distasteful from an outsider - especially a Plastic.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

These days, it's the sort of thing a lot of us would find hilarious if one of our own came out with it, and pretty damn distasteful from an outsider - especially a Plastic.

I get that's slang for outsider but what's a Plastic?

 

[KarlCrow]

I get that's slang for outsider but what's a Plastic?

A Plastic Paddy is someone pertaining to be Irish and you know maybe they are in an inauthentic type of way. Michael Flatley always comes dancing to mind.