Hat lining

[immortaldiamond]

Can someone advise me about the lining of a fedora? I bought one from Worth&Worth a month ago, handmade in cashmere by Guera, but the lining is just sitting in there. I took it to Bates and they suggested gluing it in. That seems a cheap way to deal with an expensive hat. Should the lining always be stitched or can it sit in there loose?

 

[Jauntyone]

Hi, Immortaldiamond!
Traditionally, on good-quality hats, the liner is sewn in; nowadays, just about all production hats have their liners glued in.
If I were you, I'd leave the liner un-attatched. You can take it out in warmer weather and slip it back in when it gets cold. As long as the liner stays in and isn't falling out, no-one but you will ever know it's not sewn in.

 

[Pilgrim]

As long as a liner is long enough to extend past the edges of the hatband, it's not going to go anywhere. I have had no problems leaving them loose. I darn sure don't like the idea of glue.

 

[gtdean48]

I unattach lots of my liners so I can remove it when weather gets warmer. To bo back in, I just tuck behind the sweatband & wear it, no problemo. HTH

 

[Bob Smalser]

Leaving the liners loose doesn't work well for me working out in the wind.

And besides being questionable craftsmanship, glue shortens the life of the hat because removal often takes a chunk of felt with it. Quality hats should last decades and survive several liner removals for cleaning or replacement.

Hatters generally (and carefully) baste the liners directly to the felt, but for the same reasons I don't like glue, when I remove a liner for periodic cleaning and pressing I prefer to baste it to the hat's flange instead.

 

[immortaldiamond]

Leaving the liners loose doesn't work well for me working out in the wind.

And besides being questionable craftsmanship, glue shortens the life of the hat because removal often takes a chunk of felt with it. Quality hats should last decades and survive several liner removals for cleaning or replacement.

Hatters generally (and carefully) baste the liners directly to the felt, but for the same reasons I don't like glue, when I remove a liner for periodic cleaning and pressing I prefer to baste it to the hat's flange instead.

Thanks everyone for these thoughts. I'm glad you dislike the idea of glue as much as I do!

 

[cooncatbob]

I use thin double faced tape that I got at JoAnn's, I use 4 or 5 short strips.

 

[Wil Tam]

yup

Hatters generally (and carefully) baste the liners directly to the felt, but for the same reasons I don't like glue, when I remove a liner for periodic cleaning and pressing I prefer to baste it to the hat's flange instead.

that's exactly the way I do it with the exception of stiffer linings that just stay in place by itself

 

[hatlinerman]

From Hatlinerman

Can someone advise me about the lining of a fedora? I bought one from Worth&Worth a month ago, handmade in cashmere by Guera, but the lining is just sitting in there. I took it to Bates and they suggested gluing it in. That seems a cheap way to deal with an expensive hat. Should the lining always be stitched or can it sit in there loose?

As one of the members stated, most commercial linings are glued in behind the sweat.

NES has continued the 80 year old tradition of Annex and Dannex Manufacturing in the making hat linings.

I would be interested in knowing from Forum members what they may like in hat linings that they do not have now

 

[Wil Tam]

I would be interested in knowing from Forum members what they may like in hat linings that they do not have now

snaps or velcro attachment for easy removal when it needs to be cleaned or replaced .. mesh so that it airier or a dry wick material .. something other than plastic on the crown because my sweat beads on the plastic... I wipe it off as well as the sweatband when necessary [huh]

 

[Lefty]

my preferences

For heavy hats - old and fancy - bridal satin, sewn in, embroidered would be fantastic

For lightweights - classy, but minimal - just the patch liner

 

[bolthead]

my preferences

For heavy hats - old and fancy - bridal satin, sewn in, embroidered would be fantastic

For lightweights - classy, but minimal - just the patch liner

Where do you find the patch liners, or do you make 'em?

 

[Lefty]

(Put on your Schultz for this one)
I know nussing!

I was just answering hatlinerman's question above as to my ideal linings.

Hatlinerman, you're listed as a vendor. Can you please tell us about your business? Thanks.