Senator Jack said:So if it's okay to take something deadly and make it recreational, why isn't heroin legal?
All right, I'm not being sarky here. Just interested in logic traps.
Viola said:Heroin should be legal.
-Viola
Senator Jack said:C'mon, let's be realistic. The airplane was invented to fly people around, the car to move them around the ground, and the gun was invented to put little bits of metal into a body (human or animal) thus relieving them of blood and other humors. That is, to kill them. Yes, a baseball bat can be a weapon, but that's secondary to its main purpose as an object of recreation. Conversely, the recreational use of guns is secondary to their main function.
Maj.Nick Danger said:I agree. I was a bit afraid that this would get too political, but my curiosity made me ask.
To be quite honest, I had always leaned toward the anti-gun side of the issue in my more liberal "hippy" days. But in light of history, I see the wisdom in allowing the freedom to bear arms which was written into our constitution.
Here's an option that I should have included in my poll in hindsight.
If you live in a country in which gun ownership is restricted or completely illegal, would you own a gun if the laws against gun ownership were repealed? Or would you own a gun if you became a citizen of a country that did permit their ownership?
Senator Jack said:C'mon, let's be realistic. The airplane was invented to fly people around, the car to move them around the ground, and the gun was invented to put little bits of metal into a body (human or animal) thus relieving them of blood and other humors. That is, to kill them. Yes, a baseball bat can be a weapon, but that's secondary to its main purpose as an object of recreation. Conversely, the recreational use of guns is secondary to their main function.
But why shouldn't I be able to kill somebody who is trying to kill/hurt/rob me?
Tango Yankee said:It is. It's use is strictly regulated, though.
Cheers,
Tom
Senator Jack said:No one's saying you can't. I was just pointing out that the gun was invented to kill; the recreational use is secondary.
Senator Jack said:No one's saying you can't. I was just pointing out that the gun was invented to kill; the recreational use is secondary.
I appreciate the fact that we were given that right, the right to defend ourselves if need be. I hope I never have to use a gun in that way.carebear said:Very good point Jack.
Which is why hunting and target shooting aren't mentioned in the Constitution. For good or ill and interpret it however you want (that's a discussion for a different place than the Lounge), they were talking about the primary purposes of arms, use against other people.
The fact that there's so many other things you can do with guns than (potentially) cause death is just a bonus.
Yes, I think the vast majority of legal gun owners in this country are responsible enough to feel the same way.carebear said:Ditto.
If all I ever use my firearms for is recreation (which is likely) then I will certainly not be disappointed.
I like living in a place where decent people can own and choose to carry weapons, I'd hate to live in a place where they had to.
Senator Jack said:Reminds me of the episode of All in the Family where Archie goes on television to give his editorial against gun control.
'I know how to stop all these hijackings. Arm all your passenger.' lol
Senator Jack said:So if it's okay to take something deadly and make it recreational, why isn't heroin legal?
All right, I'm not being sarky here. Just interested in logic traps.
Yes, hindsight is golden. In retrospect I should have added a few more options, but it was late,...and my curiosity gets the best of me. It's a cat thing.Tango Yankee said:As for the poll, there wasn't a selection for doesn't own one, doesn't hate them. (Edit: Looks like the poll has been modified to just show numbers. Never mind.)
Cheers,
Tom
**********Senator Jack said:So if it's okay to take something deadly and make it recreational, why isn't heroin legal?
All right, I'm not being sarky here. Just interested in logic traps.