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Steve, Thank you! I think it probably had a Tip Patch like the other one.
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Panos, Thank you! Same here.
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There are probably similar examples. I would have to take a look through my website which is easier to navigate than here.
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Here are two Federal Period eagles from my collection. With American Eagles there is not a real standard over the past 200 plus years, with older designs often brought out again for decorating.
I was not actually saying the hat logo WAS an American Eagle, (which is unlikely) but that it greatly resembled the American Eagles often seen on European Export goods for America........Laurel and all (but no Hardy).
It is not like the usual Imperial Eagles we generally see......
Here is the WW2 Discharge button which has a interesting history among servicemen....they called it the "Ruptured Duck"...
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In any case, it's astounding how similar the designs were. For example I didn't know the Prussian eagle with a laurel. But every day is a school day. Btw it was not until yesterday that I understood, what the names Laurel and Hardy depict : ) (thought these where just normal names).
Sometimes the Russian imperial eagle looks the same. And here I found the French eagle from 1893 in the same Design (with a lightning in its crawls as the Prussian is also often seen) and a quite similar US-eagle: https://media.gettyimages.com/id/12...=YWmAZY15cr0WK7cRtwquqIOIZSYh6Z-CwxR31Im0ido=
Any of these should be some sort of renewed eagle of the Roman legion, that has the same design, so we shouldn't be surprised as much.
The classical design of the German eagle with the feathers spread (what you may refer to as the usual Imperial eagle) seems to be a developement around 1400, where the Reichsbanner differentiates against the Roman eagle and the eagle lectern of the Middle ages with its feathers hold together. And this is the exact German eagle until 1918 (Prussia afterwards gets a more Roman eagle back as I showed above):
Sometimes the Russian imperial eagle looks the same. And here I found the French eagle from 1893 in the same Design (with a lightning in its crawls as the Prussian is also often seen) and a quite similar US-eagle: https://media.gettyimages.com/id/12...=YWmAZY15cr0WK7cRtwquqIOIZSYh6Z-CwxR31Im0ido=
Any of these should be some sort of renewed eagle of the Roman legion, that has the same design, so we shouldn't be surprised as much.
The classical design of the German eagle with the feathers spread (what you may refer to as the usual Imperial eagle) seems to be a developement around 1400, where the Reichsbanner differentiates against the Roman eagle and the eagle lectern of the Middle ages with its feathers hold together. And this is the exact German eagle until 1918 (Prussia afterwards gets a more Roman eagle back as I showed above):
Another wonderful find. I like the overall styling of this one.Alois Pichler Wien "Flexa", 55 cm, possibly late 1930s or a bit later. This could be a Fur - Wool mix. The Felt is very pliable and easily dry creases. Great overall look.
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Stefan, Thank you!
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I hope quoting a very old post works:
I have a top hat, that says "Stadion" as well. And as far as I can see the old pictures from that Fedora, "Stadion" is also printed on the sweat band. So maybe it really is some kind of brand. Judging the shape of this top hat, it's also 1930s.
I have a top hat, that says "Stadion" as well. And as far as I can see the old pictures from that Fedora, "Stadion" is also printed on the sweat band. So maybe it really is some kind of brand. Judging the shape of this top hat, it's also 1930s.
56 cm German 1930's mid-grey hat. Color is named "Sunda" (an Indonesian island).
Welted edge with unusual stitch-binding.
Made by "Stadion". Any more information available on this maker?
The paper label has a model number 2241. Might be 1941, but I rather think that the hat is older... ca. 1930-35.
Great condition and very sturdy but smooth felt.
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"Stadion" is a mark. Is there a paper label? Is it from a German source?
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Unfortunately not, this top hat doesn't even have a sweat band. The striped liner goes right down to the brim, where it's sewn. I bought it in Germany, yes.
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Top Hats very rarely do have a label under the sweat band. Yours doesn't have a sweat because it's an opera hat. That is to say, it's collapsible.
Steve, there won't be a paper label as there is no sweat band. It's a Gibus.
I've actually rarely seen a label under the sweat of a Topper.
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Of course! I don't have to be surprised! It couldn't collapse with a sweat band : D
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One moment, I have a collapsible top hat with a sweat band, but that's a post war and has a very small sweat band.
Can you post it?
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I know that it's a collapsible Top Hat.
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Looking for hat information?
That's what I use too, cheap craft felt from WalMart. White or natural/neutral colored, so there's no chance the dye color might bleed onto the hat if you really sweat your brains out. I've had six Akubras in my standard size, all started a half-size large, and all but one eventually shrank to...
Tremel was located in Herford, Germany. I am not sure when they went out of business but I will do some more research. There are some great photos from this book (see below).
"Herford zwischen 1900 und 1960" By Eris Valentowicz.
"After the death of the founder August Tremel in 1924, his sons Adolf and August took over the hat factory and built a new building in 1927 at the same location. Above the hat shop, here around 1930, was the hat maker's workshop."
"For the production of a folding cylinder "Chapeau claque", a basic form, the galette, was first made.This photo from the 1950s shows a Tremel hatter holding two Galettes in his hands.The plush was mounted on the godet during the next step."
One of the pages is missing from the preview but you can see the rest of entry here. Some really great photos!
https://books.google.com/books?id=m...Nd8KHS0ZDegQ6AEwC3oECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=true
I know that it's a collapsible Top Hat.
Apologies Steve.
What paper label were you looking for?
Can't see the mechanism that collapses it. Is it under the sweat?