Freewheelers leather jackets

[HoosierDaddy]

Can't agree with Tom or Brandrea. I honestly think it doesn't fit well and the sleeves will not shorten noticeably on their own. Paying premium should produce at least a good fit. That should matter as much or more than fashion or style. To me honesty should prevail over nice. It bothers me when I see the opposite.
HD

 

[navetsea]

I think the fit couldnt be better... was so worried with choosing a jacket i never tried before

thoughts on the fit?

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I think you should wet the sleeve and spread the creases better so it's not all pooling on your inside elbow, rise your arm up, do rowing, orswimming motion, etc to crease more on the upper sleeve too, seems like this design has bigger biceps and kinda taper hard to the wrist. I kind of understand the connection between big upper arm, those silver decoration buttons kind of old timey cavalry or something , and riding with flared hip pants or breeches (not my taste) but kind of see how it is designed that way.

there is another route through LW
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/new-lw-leathertogs-b.101239/
but I can see there is some differences in the sleeve style, LW version doesn't taper the sleeve and looks differently, and obviously the leather is different too probably won't turn brown with wear I guess, but more tailored in fit and dare I say LW collar looks better designed based on that picture

 

[Tom71]

Certainly more agreement than disagreement here.

Of course, an expensive jacket needs to be "perfect". I was just commenting on the fact that as of lately, perfect tends to be defined as "fits like a MTM suit".
My taste in leather jackets follows a different aestetics, as in "needs to look like a casual tool".
The FW jacket that sparked the discussion IMO is a perfect fit in the torso (including - arguably) the lenght) with minimally wide shoulders and borderline long sleeves. For me, this works.

There is no objective measure for "a good fit" (there definitely comes a point where something clearly is a terrible fit...). I won´t name members, but we have preferences for sleeves covering the knuckles as well as for not even covering the wrists. We have "needs to cover the belt" vs. "why don´t you wear high-rise trousers" etc. Different strokes for different...
Most role-models we (implicetly) follow never wore "perfect fitting" jackets, whether that be The Ramones, The Wild One or any given WW2-Flying Ace.

@HD: This is my honest opinion...

 

[Mich486]

^I agree with you. At least to the extent that not all designs are meant to be body hugging and follow one’s body shape tightly. One can certainly prefer tight fitting jackets but that can’t be used across all styles to define what is a good fit. Certain jackets just aren’t designed like that. One might not care for the big biceps for instance and that’s fine but to me it’s part of the design Although I think monitor/HD argument is slightly different-> I spend $$$$ I need to be 100% satisfied. Fair enough.

Imo yes the sleeves are slightly too long but honestly, I think this jacket is quite the statement already so wearing it slightly oversized just makes it look less quirky/serious. I’m honesty surprised how popular this design is becoming especially on guys that otherwise dress pretty conservative. This is probably one of the most flamboyant leather jacket designs out there!

 

[HoosierDaddy]

'Perfect fitting jacket' ?? No one said perfect. However, premium jackets should at least have a decent fit above all else. Many makers offer custom fits by measurement in the $ 800 and up range ( at least sleeve and body length ). The buyer should be happy with his fit whether he prefers it a different way as some. Yet a jacket that looks like your big brother's jacket or one that must belong to your little brother is easy for the honest eye to see. Some will keep trying all sorts of remedies to reshape or make an ill fitting jacket work. Sometimes it can make things somewhat better but more often it is a losing battle.
BTW...there's no way I would want to look like a Ramone or desire a rock star costume fitting leather jacket.

 

[navetsea]

who's eyes is honest yours, mine, theirs, god's?

 

[JMax]

Stuart told me that this is a jacket meant to be very form-fitting in the torso and designed/built to be ridden with. Hence some of the design and pattern features. I can say that it is special on the bike. Off of it? You'll more likely find me wearing something else.

Aquaman must be taking some time off from the weights. His muscle mass seems to fluctuate rather quickly. But if he sizes down he would be wearing one of HD's famous leather halter tops

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Well when an ill fit is mostly 'obvious' is it better to be honest about it or just nice and suggest that somehow the owner shouldn't question it but just be happy? It would seem that God would be honest (perhaps maybe in a good way). Not sure about your approach navetsea or some others.

I don't get your insults Jmax. I can understand disagreement. But you trying to be cute isn't appreciated.

 

[navetsea]

you don't even like the "bellhop" you often mock everybody who wears it. why bother force a well fitted bellhop from your point of view of good fit? even Thedi doesn't share your taste of fit. doesn't mean your taste is wrong, just mean everyone has different taste

 

[MBT]

Breakmann

 

[ton312]

YIKES! I think this style is just very tough to pull off. Honestly, I really dislike the design. That is purely my own opinion though. I'm quite sure many could say the same of my gigantic collared 5 stars or the spongebob strange pocket jacket. Ultimately it only depends what the person who wears it thinks (particularly w/regard to a style or design)...but I agree if you ask for fit opinions, you should get honest ones, even if they aren't what you wanted to hear. @Serghei Velescu personally I wouldn't be thrilled with that fit, I don't think it's a terrible fit but I think you could do better. As far as the money spent goes, all my cheaper jackets fit better than the expensive ones, almost universally and without fail. Point being a high price tag doesn't guarantee anything other than a high price paid.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

you don't even like the "bellhop" you often mock everybody who wears it. why bother force a well fitted bellhop from your point of view of good fit? even Thedi doesn't share your taste of fit. doesn't mean your taste is wrong, just mean everyone has different taste

I don't mock 'everybody' or anyone who wears a bellhop looking jacket but I do offer my opinion about that style. I also do offer my observation about fit. You don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you. I will not keep my mouth shut about how I view some leather jackets and their fit.
I'm very satisfied how my Thedis fit ME. I don't question or hope to adjust something about the jacket . Thedi did that for me to my specs. Makes no difference to me if Theo wears his differently than I do.
I'm not saying that someone's fit is 'wrong' but I will offer up my thoughts on what 'I think' is off.

 

[dwilson]

I think if your plan is to have the jacket as a t-shirt jacket then it is simply too big everywhere. From the front it looks reasonable (body looks long for a rider style, though) but the back picture seems to indiciate that is likely because of so much bunching going on in the back. However if you'll primarily be wearing a heavy flannel or sweat under it then the added room may work out, though it appears like the forearms then may not accomodate that.

As others have said if you're dropping $2k+ on a jacket you should at least be personally happy with the fit. This feels similar to my feelings when I got my Iron Heart where I knew it fit a big everywhere and I tried to just keep wearing it to see if it grew (shrunk?) on me but it never did.

 

[Tom71]

I'm very satisfied how my Thedis fit ME. I don't question or hope to adjust something about the jacket . Thedi did that for me to my specs. Makes no difference to me if Theo wears his differently than I do.

Exactly this! Theodoros´jackts fit HIM perfectly. HD´s jacktes fit HIM perfectly. And both wearers have dramatically different preferences. And both are right.

 

[handymike]

I agree with the idea of offering honest feedback when asked, and @Serghei Velescu asked.

 

[JMax]

I agree with the idea of offering honest feedback when asked, and @Serghei Velescu asked.

Yep.

And I never ask for two reasons.

Mainly, I know what I like, want, and am willing to accept. Perhaps I’m blissful in my ignorance, but I’ll own that too. I like what I like.

Second, there are some stone-cold, nit picky killers around here. Lol. Polite though, that’s good.

A third reason just popped in my head. At this point I pretty much know where most seasoned TFL vets stand on fit.

What I do ask, a lot, and mostly via messaging, is for input, advice, thoughts, on particular jackets. Not fit, but the actual jackets. The leather, the hardware, the label, etc. That is where I think TFL really shines.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Yet I can express my opinion that Theo's jacket sleeves are too short. Maybe that's the way they wear them in Greece. That's the key. I have every right to post my thoughts about it and on many other photos that some post. Especially if they seem to question fit or wonder about how it looks, of course I may offer my conclusions.

I few posted that my Thedi jacket sleeves were too long. I hadn't asked for opinions but I didn't take offence either.

 

[handymike]

Yep.

And I never ask for two reasons.

Mainly, I know what I like, want, and am willing to accept. Perhaps I’m blissful in my ignorance, but I’ll own that too. I like what I like.

Second, there are some stone-cold, nit picky killers around here. Lol. Polite though, that’s good.

A third reason just popped in my head. At this point I pretty much know where most seasoned TFL vets stand on fit.

What I do ask, a lot, and mostly via messaging, is for input, advice, thoughts, on particular jackets. Not fit, but the actual jackets. The leather, the hardware, the label, etc. That is where I think TFL really shines.

Right on @JMax!

 

[Carlos840]

Is there a reason for the stitching that goes from the chest pockets to the main zipper on the Mulholland? Or, is it for aesthetic only? I'm being nitpicky for sure but it's the only thing I don't like about the jacket and unfortunately it's right there up front.

It's basically how the pocket lining is attached.
It's just a canvas backing stitched to the leather, there is no pocket bag.
with you hand in the pocket you have leather underside on one side, thick canvas on the other.

 

[navetsea]

it's the bane of ready to wear clothes at whatever price point, you wear someone elses's vision of fit, come back to which side feels stronger on you style (and perhaps brand) or fit?
since not many make that model, right just FW, LW, and chinese FW copy.
can always go to FL maybe for the same leather and trim modern fit body and sleeve.
He clearly can't go down size on that, so either make it work and be happy or not wearing FW.