dhermann1
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Very curious how he stacked up against his peers. Was there a lot of rampant awfulness there, or do kids nowadays do it better than they did in the 70s and 80s?
I'd have liked to have gotten a carnation, but I couldn't find a boutonnière in anything other than a rose, so I did without.
Very nice indeed. Though personally I prefer a turndown collar with semi-formal wear.
White Tie=Formal and Black Tie=Semi-Formal. Just a matter of terminology.Interesting. What makes this semi-formal?
There are no rules per se concerning choice of shirt collar for Semi-Formal but my thought is that as a casual version of Formal wear a wing collar is a touch too dressy. Again, just a matter of personal preferanceMy vintage dealer told us to wear a wing collar with this peak lapel DB tuxedo, and the turn down collar with the shawl lapel DB tuxedo.
SteveAS, you need to tell a florist you want a single white carnation with the long stem ONLY. Tell them that IS what you want, not a boutonnière. Out here, a single carnation is $2.00. Then you cut the stem shorter yourself after, maybe an inch and a quarter long.
Oh, you also need a white cotton handkerchief for your pocket square, try J.C. Penney.
Thanks for the tip on the carnation. I'm aware that convention calls for a pocket square, but I don't like pocket squares, so I don't wear them.
I really don't know how to respond to this.This whole idea that black tie is semi formal . . . That was true a hundred years ago. I think it's a wee bit of an affectation to cling to it religiously these days. Unless you're getting a Nobel Prize, there's hardly an event left in the world where black tie is not considered pretty damned dressy. Fashion and style evolve, standards change (I know! I know! "But not here in the Lounge!")
Just sayin'. This whole thing of black tie being semi formal . . . It's vestigial.