Footwear to go with our jackets

[dannyk]

Fp?

I believe that’s Flame Panda

 

[Ayeteael]

I believe that’s Flame Panda

Correctamundo.

 

[Goel]

That's really cool, where are you getting the elk from? The 108 last is much sleeker and has a dressier vibe to it, I personally prefer the 206 as it fits my style a bit better.

I never knew that, did you just ask them about it? I have always wanted to get a pair of boots from them and having that option makes them more appealing for sure. I never understood why the cost of the Eastman tankers is as high as it is...but I guess that's kind of the way with Lofgren's pricing

I bought the elk from a German retailer. I asked Dehner about leather options, apparently they've worked with exotic leathers like gator and snake leather so horsehide should be simple. The Eastman/JL Tankers are actually made by the factory Miyagi Kogyo in Japan and their shoes tend to be pretty expensive. I'm sure they're very well made with a clean finish but I really don't need that in a boot. I've been preferring stuff that might not have the nicest finish but is built tough like Wesco, White's etc... and Dehner seems to fit that niche. Even their basic calfskin looks really nice.

 

[powerserge]

I hear you the normal burgundy isn't so nice compared to the color #8. Isn't color #8 and cordovan cxl the same color? I get them confused all the time

@Harris HTM shows you a some of the difference between the two and the biggest thing will be the depth of color shell cordovan will have. The Color 8 shell will vary all the way from dark brown to a lighter burgundy. Horween also does have a color 8 cxl which is one of the better cxl colors but it is more one dimensional compared to its shell counterpart. A lot of brands and companies will use the cordovan name to describe any burgundy shoe which can get confusing, especially when looking to buy shell cordovan on ebay.

I bought the elk from a German retailer. I asked Dehner about leather options, apparently they've worked with exotic leathers like gator and snake leather so horsehide should be simple. The Eastman/JL Tankers are actually made by the factory Miyagi Kogyo in Japan and their shoes tend to be pretty expensive. I'm sure they're very well made with a clean finish but I really don't need that in a boot. I've been preferring stuff that might not have the nicest finish but is built tough like Wesco, White's etc... and Dehner seems to fit that niche. Even their basic calfskin looks really nice.

That's really cool! I'd be very interested in seeing what your boots will look with this elk leather, and thanks again for passing on info about Dehner. I have heard about that factory and know that they do make great things but I am in the same boat as you. My boots don't need to be 100% perfect and would rather have a sturdier boot as well. I think standards for me would be different in a dress shoe where I think finishing is more important than on a boot. Also to note about Miyagi Kogyo, I have seen boots made for Skomaker Dagestad that are almost exactly the same as the JL combat boot but are $150 cheaper. I found the difference in price interesting and wonder why that is.
https://skomakerdagestad.no/collections/skomaker-dagestad-yamagata

 

[Jin431]

Almost. In the figures below: a William Lennon Horween no8 cxl steer (2016, walked thousands of km's), an Alden Horween no8 shell cap toe boot (2018, moderate wear) and an Alden Horween no8 shell long wing brogue (end of 2019, almost no wear due to covid).
It is pity that there is no sunlight now, you could then see the real difference, and the amazing colour depth of horween no8 shell.
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Very lovely collection of footwear. So interesting to see how the light bounces off of the shoes and gives you different depth of colors depending on the angle and lighting. I'm sure this is going to be more confusing in the color spectrum with daylight. Shell cordovan is really special.

@Harris HTM shows you a some of the difference between the two and the biggest thing will be the depth of color shell cordovan will have. The Color 8 shell will vary all the way from dark brown to a lighter burgundy. Horween also does have a color 8 cxl which is one of the better cxl colors but it is more one dimensional compared to its shell counterpart. A lot of brands and companies will use the cordovan name to describe any burgundy shoe which can get confusing, especially when looking to buy shell cordovan on ebay.

That's really cool! I'd be very interested in seeing what your boots will look with this elk leather, and thanks again for passing on info about Dehner. I have heard about that factory and know that they do make great things but I am in the same boat as you. My boots don't need to be 100% perfect and would rather have a sturdier boot as well. I think standards for me would be different in a dress shoe where I think finishing is more important than on a boot. Also to note about Miyagi Kogyo, I have seen boots made for Skomaker Dagestad that are almost exactly the same as the JL combat boot but are $150 cheaper. I found the difference in price interesting and wonder why that is.
https://skomakerdagestad.no/collections/skomaker-dagestad-yamagata

Got it, that's very good to know. Now I know what to look out for but considering all that info now I'm wanting to have a color 8 cxl and a color 8 shell for the future.

 

[Mrfrown]

Wearing Allen Edmonds Normandy boots in dark brown/red kudu and NO JACKET because it’s over 70 degrees F today. Does feel great out here though.

These were my first foray into “nicer” boots several years back. Not as comfortable of a sole as my Whites or Wesco, not as solid of a build either, but still love em. And the leather basically looks great no matter what happens to it.

 

[Turnip]

Soon to go with my jackets...

Arrived today, perfect fit, like a glove, excellent craftsmanship and very fine materials...as far as I could estimate. Unfortunately some small damages on left
tip´s seam so I returned them.

Replacement will be some double soled handmade in Germany full brogues.

Cheers

Turnip

 

[Jin431]

Wearing Allen Edmonds Normandy boots in dark brown/red kudu and NO JACKET because it’s over 70 degrees F today. Does feel great out here though.

These were my first foray into “nicer” boots several years back. Not as comfortable of a sole as my Whites or Wesco, not as solid of a build either, but still love em. And the leather basically looks great no matter what happens to it.

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Too bad it's not a leather jacket worthy weather earlier today.

Those boots look good and well worn!

Arrived today, perfect fit, like a glove, excellent craftsmanship and very fine materials...as far as I could estimate. Unfortunately some small damages on left
tip´s seam so I returned them.

Replacement will be some double soled handmade in Germany full brogues.

Cheers

Turnip

Congrats on a new pair of shoes, they look very proper. I've never tried shoes with a leather sole before but yours look terrific

 

[Mrfrown]

Wesco Boss 7500s “nicest shoes on the playground” according to another kid wrangler

Worn with a Bravestar Type III jacket today

 

[dubpynchon]

Almost. In the figures below: a William Lennon Horween no8 cxl steer (2016, walked thousands of km's), an Alden Horween no8 shell cap toe boot (2018, moderate wear) and an Alden Horween no8 shell long wing brogue (end of 2019, almost no wear due to covid).
It is pity that there is no sunlight now, you could then see the real difference, and the amazing colour depth of horween no8 shell.
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I’m still geeking out over my William Lennon boots. They’re something else, I think it’s the thick leather midsole that makes them so solid and comfortable. I got CXL Horween cordovan as well. There was quite a wait for them, I imagine it’s even longer now.

 

[Harris HTM]

I’m still geeking out over my William Lennon boots. They’re something else, I think it’s the thick leather midsole that makes them so solid and comfortable. I got CXL Horween cordovan as well. There was quite a wait for them, I imagine it’s even longer now.

I cannot praise them enough, I own three pairs of WL's, walked miles and miles on them, they are indestructible!

 

[dannyk]

I’m still geeking out over my William Lennon boots. They’re something else, I think it’s the thick leather midsole that makes them so solid and comfortable. I got CXL Horween cordovan as well. There was quite a wait for them, I imagine it’s even longer now.

Sorry you probably said which ones but I haven’t read every post here. Which model William Lennon boots did you go with?

 

[dannyk]

Also where do you guys order from? Their current website at least is not so good and lacking photos ha.

 

[Harris HTM]

Also where do you guys order from? Their current website at least is not so good and lacking photos ha.

Directly from their site. You can email them, then a nice lady (Libs) will contact you and you can discuss all the customization options (they offer a variety of leathers). It is a pity that their site is not that good.
Seriously, I really wonder why they are not more popular here.
I really don't remember how I was introduced to them many years ago, probably I have (again) TFL to blame!
Happy new year to all by the way, good riddance to 2020, stay healthy (and buy quality shoes and leather jackets)!

 

[dannyk]

Directly from their site. You can email them, then a nice lady (Libs) will contact you and you can discuss all the customization options (they offer a variety of leathers). It is a pity that their site is not that good.
Seriously, I really wonder why they are not more popular here.
I really don't remember how I was introduced to them many years ago, probably I have (again) TFL to blame!
Happy new year to all by the way, good riddance to 2020, stay healthy (and buy quality shoes and leather jackets)!

Thanks, and same to you. They look super well built, and the price on them looks really good. One brand in my price range I can actually afford and look totally worth it. They really do need a better site. Hardly any pictures either such a shame. But thanks for the encouragement. Definitely going to think about options.

 

[Pandemic]

Wearing Allen Edmonds Normandy boots in dark brown/red kudu and NO JACKET because it’s over 70 degrees F today. Does feel great out here though.

These were my first foray into “nicer” boots several years back. Not as comfortable of a sole as my Whites or Wesco, not as solid of a build either, but still love em. And the leather basically looks great no matter what happens to it.

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Details on the ripstop trousers? They look really nice.

 

[dubpynchon]

Sorry you probably said which ones but I haven’t read every post here. Which model William Lennon boots did you go with?

Here's the link with pics, the black ones are on the left and the cordovan on the right, both CXL. I ordered direct from the website. They're super sturdy, I can see why they post pics of boots sent back to them for resoling, I wouldn't throw them out.

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/footwear-to-go-with-our-jackets.91962/page-31#post-2635820

 

[Mrfrown]

Details on the ripstop trousers? They look really nice.

They’re Rivet Chinos from Epaulet. Unfortunately not always available as they switch through different fabrics throughout the year. I think you can probably special order them, they seem to do a lot of custom work.

https://www.epauletbrand.com/collections/rivet-chinos

 

[dannyk]

Here's the link with pics, the black ones are on the left and the cordovan on the right, both CXL. I ordered direct from the website. They're super sturdy, I can see why they post pics of boots sent back to them for resoling, I wouldn't throw them out.

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/footwear-to-go-with-our-jackets.91962/page-31#post-2635820

Just poking around a little I saw one or two boots with Horween leathers. Does it cost extra for CXL, or is a leather they normally stock? Sorry again if you addressed this all, I’m behind on this thread haha. Those look tough enough for a war though. Look like tanks.

 

[Harris HTM]

Just poking around a little I saw one or two boots with Horween leathers. Does it cost extra for CXL, or is a leather they normally stock? Sorry again if you addressed this all, I’m behind on this thread haha. Those look tough enough for a war though. Look like tanks.

yes, there was an extra charge for Horween, not that much though (I can't remember exactly).