Edward
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Two for the show?
This would be great information to have in a thread in the General Attire & Accoutrements thread where more shoe people who aren't also leather jacket people will see it (and chime in).
Hear, HearThere are MANY active participants in the Outerwear Section of TFL -- me included -- who do not read any other parts of TFL (with the singular exception of the Classifieds). The other sections of TFL simply do not interest us. Therefore, we limit our participation to the Outerwear Section (and Classifieds).
When you merge Outerwear threads into pre-existing threads located elsewhere within TFL, the result is that the Outerwear members that originally started the Outerwear thread, and who do not read the other portions of TFL, cease to participate in the merged thread. We are functionally deprived of the original Outerwear thread because it is now buried within another section of TFL dominated by discussions that do not interest us.
This weekend, I started a new thread titled "JACKETS and pets." Apparently, there is already a thread elsewhere on TFL for pets -- NOT JACKETS and pets -- rather, just pets. Nevertheless, the Moderators merged the Outerwear JACKETS and pets thread with the pre-existing thread elsewhere on TFL. Now, the Outerwear JACKETS and pets thread has lost its connection to JACKETS and is part of a generic pets thread. Moreover, the merged thread is buried within a section of TFL dominated by discussions that do not interest me or many other Outerwear participants, and I strongly suspect that many Outerwear participants (me included) will never participate again. The Outerwear section has been deprived of a thread expressly related to JACKETS because it overlapped with a non-jacket thread elsewhere on TFL. That is very disappointing. I sent you a PM requesting that you reconsider the issue.
This is not the first time this has happened. Years ago, I started a thread in the Outerwear Section titled "What Jacket Are You Wearing Today" ("WJAYWT"). Shortly thereafter, a moderator deemed the Outerwear thread duplicative of a pre-existing thread elsewhere on TFL titled "What Are You Wearing Today" ("WAYWT") and merged the new Outerwear thread with the pre-existing thread, even though the Outerwear thread was expressly focused on JACKETS. A year later, someone else started the IDENTICAL WJAYWT thread in the Outerwear section. However, this time around, the Moderators allowed the thread to remain and did not merge it with the pre-existing WAYWT thread. I applaud the decision, but the disparate treatment of the two identical threads was never explained to me.
Now, you are contemplating merging the Footwear thread in the Outerwear section with one of the pre-existing footwear threads elsewhere on TFL (e.g., https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/show-us-your-shoes.4300/ and https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/engineer-boots-harness-boots.43530/ ). I respectfully request that you refrain from merging the threads. If you do merge, the connection to Outerwear will be lost and many Outerwear participants -- me included -- will cease to participate. I/we will not hunt and peck for the merged thread buried within a section of TFL dominated by discussions that do not interest me/us.
I understand the Moderators' desire to promote cross-participation. However, the fact remains that the Outerwear Section is populated primarily by people interested in Outerwear, as opposed to the Golden Era in general. When you deprive the Outerwear section of threads which partially overlap with other sections of TFL, you diminish the quality of the premier Outerwear forum on the interest. I urge the Moderators to allow the Outerwear Section to continue to thrive on its own, without stripping away threads through merger. Those who also want to read the other sections of TFL will do so. There will always be some cross-participation. However, moving Outerwear threads to other sections of TFL will not effectively promote cross-participation and, instead, will simply diminish the Outerwear Section.
I was wondering where that thread had gone.The belt thread that was started in the Outerwear section on Friday was a promising one. In a few hours it received several replies. It was moved over to General Attire on Friday evening and it’s been dormant ever since.
Edward,
The Outerwear Section of TFL is the premier Outerwear forum on the internet, bar none. It is a tremendous community and an invaluable resource for outerwear enthusiasts worldwide.
The majority of the currently active Outerwear participants did not discover the Outerwear Section because of a general interest in the "Golden Era" or through the broader TFL forums rooted in the Golden Era. Rather, most of us came to the Outerwear Section solely and exclusively because of our interest in Outerwear. We were scouring the internet for information regarding jackets and we found the Outerwear Section. Outerwear is our commonality.
There are MANY active participants in the Outerwear Section of TFL -- me included -- who do not read any other parts of TFL (with the singular exception of the Classifieds). The other sections of TFL simply do not interest us. Therefore, we limit our participation to the Outerwear Section (and Classifieds).
When you merge Outerwear threads into pre-existing threads located elsewhere within TFL, the result is that the Outerwear members that originally started the Outerwear thread, and who do not read the other portions of TFL, cease to participate in the merged thread. We are functionally deprived of the original Outerwear thread because it is now buried within another section of TFL dominated by discussions that do not interest us.
This weekend, I started a new thread titled "JACKETS and pets." Apparently, there is already a thread elsewhere on TFL for pets -- NOT JACKETS and pets -- rather, just pets. Nevertheless, the Moderators merged the Outerwear JACKETS and pets thread with the pre-existing thread elsewhere on TFL. Now, the Outerwear JACKETS and pets thread has lost its connection to JACKETS and is part of a generic pets thread. Moreover, the merged thread is buried within a section of TFL dominated by discussions that do not interest me or many other Outerwear participants, and I strongly suspect that many Outerwear participants (me included) will never participate again. The Outerwear section has been deprived of a thread expressly related to JACKETS because it overlapped with a non-jacket thread elsewhere on TFL. That is very disappointing. I sent you a PM requesting that you reconsider the issue.
This is not the first time this has happened. Years ago, I started a thread in the Outerwear Section titled "What Jacket Are You Wearing Today" ("WJAYWT"). Shortly thereafter, a moderator deemed the Outerwear thread duplicative of a pre-existing thread elsewhere on TFL titled "What Are You Wearing Today" ("WAYWT") and merged the new Outerwear thread with the pre-existing thread, even though the Outerwear thread was expressly focused on JACKETS. A year later, someone else started the IDENTICAL WJAYWT thread in the Outerwear section. However, this time around, the Moderators allowed the thread to remain and did not merge it with the pre-existing WAYWT thread. I applaud the decision, but the disparate treatment of the two identical threads was never explained to me.
Now, you are contemplating merging the Footwear thread in the Outerwear section with one of the pre-existing footwear threads elsewhere on TFL (e.g., https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/show-us-your-shoes.4300/ and https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/engineer-boots-harness-boots.43530/ ). I respectfully request that you refrain from merging the threads. If you do merge, the connection to Outerwear will be lost and many Outerwear participants -- me included -- will cease to participate. I/we will not hunt and peck for the merged thread buried within a section of TFL dominated by discussions that do not interest me/us.
There are many other Outerwear threads that are potentially subject to similar merger with arguably duplicative threads elsewhere on TFL. The overlap is inevitable.
I understand the Moderators' desire to promote cross-participation. However, the fact remains that the Outerwear Section is populated primarily by people interested in Outerwear, as opposed to the Golden Era in general. When you deprive the Outerwear section of threads which partially overlap with other sections of TFL, you diminish the quality of the premier Outerwear forum on the interest. I urge the Moderators to allow the Outerwear Section to continue to thrive on its own, without stripping away threads through merger. Those who also want to read the other sections of TFL will do so. There will always be some cross-participation. However, moving Outerwear threads to other sections of TFL will not effectively promote cross-participation and, instead, will simply diminish the Outerwear Section.
Thank you for your consideration.
I forgot this pair when we were discussing straps the other day. These fit a treat, possibly the best, without a strap at all.
Wesco Boss
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