Footwear to go with our jackets

[Canuck Panda]

Thanks, they’re are lovely boot. I actually went with a lighter weight vibram gumlite sole which are softer, lighter, quieter and more comfortable than Danite. I’d never buy danite soles again, I find them hard, noisy when walking and downright dangerous on certain surfaces. I see Trickers now offer ridgeway soles also on certain models which are an improvement on danites also.

Gumlite are nice. Dainites are slippery in wet conditions, I wish they update the compound so it’s not so slippery When wet.

 

[TartuWolf]

I'm just not sure how custom the custom Sendra boots are.

Talked to Sendra about this. Turns out their customization is very meh when ordered by a single customer.

Veg tan leather insole - Not possible
Unstructured toe - Not possible
Leather midsole + half-sole instead of full rubber outsole - Not possible
Unlined - Not possible

Basically pick a model as is and you can only customize the leather to one of the other ones they offer. That's it.

So yeah, custom Sendra directly from Sendra is not an option sadly.

 

[Observe]

Thanks, they’re are lovely boot. I actually went with a lighter weight vibram gumlite sole which are softer, lighter, quieter and more comfortable than Danite. I’d never buy danite soles again, I find them hard, noisy when walking and downright dangerous on certain surfaces. I see Trickers now offer ridgeway soles also on certain models which are an improvement on danites also.

Dainite soles are actually garbage in terms of traction. Their intended purpose I believe is to avoid tracking in dirt from outside. They have a nice profile, but I'd sacrifice some aesthetic appeal for practicality.

I'd never buy footwear with dainite soles again. I even find vibram 700 soles to have better traction than dainite, a better alternative for low profile.

 

[dudewuttheheck]

Dainite is disgustingly overrated in the boot world by people who gave the tried vibrant or Dr. Soles, etc. Dainese offers a pathetic amount of grip in comparison to other rubber soles.

 

[Observe]

Dainite is disgustingly overrated in the boot world by people who gave the tried vibrant or Dr. Soles, etc. Dainese offers a pathetic amount of grip in comparison to other rubber soles.

Yeah, my Wesco engineer boots have Dr. Sole super grip soles, they're low profile and provide reasonable traction all things considered.

 

[Tom71]

Dainite is disgustingly overrated in the boot world by people who gave the tried vibrant or Dr. Soles, etc. Dainese offers a pathetic amount of grip in comparison to other rubber soles.

Hmm, as somebody who wears dress shoes with leather soles five days in the week, "traction" has a different status for me. Dainite Soles are the go-to for me when I need to dress up, but will be faced with adverse or changing weather conditions (heavy rain on the commute, business-trips with unpredictable weather etc.). They look subtle enough to go well with dress shoes, but are more uncomplicated to use than leather soles.

"Traction" is something I am looking for when I need to do a lot of walking in wet and/or uneven terrain.

This is not a contradiction to what has been said before; I agree that Dainite´s do not excel in terms of traction.

 

[mvilla]

Particularly, I don't find Dainite traction that horrid, but I find them rather uncomfortable... Vibram 700 is pretty meh in traction, and I wouldn't say it is better than Dainite, in my experience. I like Itshide if we're talking traction. The have a low profile and some nice lugs. Trickers use them from time to time. They have a nice history as well. I don't know why I don't see them mentioned more often, though.

 

[Observe]

As is the case with tires, soft rubber improves grip in soles. The dainite soles are extremely long lasting due to the hardness of the rubber used in them. This also makes them difficult to break in, uncomfortable and slippery under certain conditions. Softer rubber doesn't have these problems, and has good traction, but wears out faster. It's a trade off ultimately, but I'd take a sooner resole over falling and breaking something.

 

[mvilla]

As is the case with tires, soft rubber improves grip in soles. The dainite soles are extremely long lasting due to the hardness of the rubber used in them. This also makes them difficult to break in, uncomfortable and slippery under certain conditions. Softer rubber doesn't have these problems, and has good traction, but wears out faster. It's a trade off ultimately, but I'd take a sooner resole over falling and breaking something.

They are indeed long lasting lol I've been wearing my Vibergs pretty consistently for the last 5 years and still didn't need to resole... Honestly I really wish they would be gone by now, but nope... And I just cannot justify resoling a pair of stitch down boots before their time.

 

[dudewuttheheck]

The issue with Dainite is that there are better options. Vibram and Dr. Sole now both have more subtle options that have the same profile as Dainite, but offer more grip.

 

[Aloysius]

As is the case with tires, soft rubber improves grip in soles. The dainite soles are extremely long lasting due to the hardness of the rubber used in them. This also makes them difficult to break in, uncomfortable and slippery under certain conditions. Softer rubber doesn't have these problems, and has good traction, but wears out faster. It's a trade off ultimately, but I'd take a sooner resole over falling and breaking something.

Dainite long lasting? My Dainite soles have always worn down quicker than a single layer leather sole.

 

[Observe]

Dainite long lasting? My Dainite soles have always worn down quicker than a single layer leather sole.

I don't have much experience with leather so I can't speak to this.

 

[Canuck Panda]

Wearing my Trickers Bourtons in reverse Kudu and Dainite today. I love the Bourtons so much I have it in different leathers and different soles. And I gave them a close look last night, and realized that the Dainite could be the same rubber compound as the Commando and the Ridgeway, just my guess. The different treads do make a difference though. I believe if the Dainite had some horizontal ridges it would have more grip in wet conditions, but the side profiles would change. The Dainite has the most "leather" like side profiles and most OTR came in this configuration. To get a different sole sometimes means doubling the cost and that's just not worth it for me. But for my custom orders I only get either double leather sole for looks or Commando soles for grip, so there is that...

 

[Observe]

Wearing my Trickers Bourtons in reverse Kudu and Dainite today. I love the Bourtons so much I have it in different leathers and different soles. And I gave them a close look last night, and realized that the Dainite could be the same rubber compound as the Commando and the Ridgeway, just my guess. The different treads do make a difference though. I believe if the Dainite had some horizontal ridges it would have more grip in wet conditions, but the side profiles would change. The Dainite has the most "leather" like side profiles and most OTR came in this configuration. To get a different sole sometimes means doubling the cost and that's just not worth it for me. But for my custom orders I only get either double leather sole for looks or Commando soles for grip, so there is that...

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I think the Commando is made by dainite as is ridgeway. The whole company is owned by the same people as Crockett and Jones I believe, which is why you may notice if you have C&J footwear with dainite soles that they're actually C&J branded instead of saying "dainite".

Here's a couple quick crappy shots of my Vibergs I'm wearing today with Commando soles.

 

[Canuck Panda]

Cool. How do you guys get rid of the gravels in the Commando sole grooves? I mostly use pens to pry them out but some are lodged in there pretty good.

 

[Observe]

Cool. How do you guys get rid of the gravels in the Commando sole grooves? I mostly use pens to pry them out but some are lodged in there pretty good.

Usually use a nail to pry them out. It can be pretty annoying at times but I try to stay on top of it. Biggest drawback of the big lugs.

 

[NZJono]

Wearing my Trickers Bourtons in reverse Kudu and Dainite today. I love the Bourtons so much I have it in different leathers and different soles. And I gave them a close look last night, and realized that the Dainite could be the same rubber compound as the Commando and the Ridgeway, just my guess. The different treads do make a difference though. I believe if the Dainite had some horizontal ridges it would have more grip in wet conditions, but the side profiles would change. The Dainite has the most "leather" like side profiles and most OTR came in this configuration. To get a different sole sometimes means doubling the cost and that's just not worth it for me. But for my custom orders I only get either double leather sole for looks or Commando soles for grip, so there is that...

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Might be worth getting a resole if you know a good local cobbler who can do it for a reasonable price?. A while back I sent a couple of pairs back to the UK for a resole which is kind of ridiculous sending them that far. Almost as cheap to but a new pair from the Trickers Outlet. Anyway, I’ve got enough pairs… at the moment.

 

[mvilla]

I think the Commando is made by dainite as is ridgeway. The whole company is owned by the same people as Crockett and Jones I believe, which is why you may notice if you have C&J footwear with dainite soles that they're actually C&J branded instead of saying "dainite".

Here's a couple quick crappy shots of my Vibergs I'm wearing today with Commando soles.
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This is Itshide Commando, it's not Dainite. Different companies

 

[Observe]

This is Itshide Commando, it's not Dainite. Different companies

Ah damn you're right, my bad. Itshide does seem to have their own version of the dainite soles.

 

[mvilla]

Ah damn you're right, my bad. Itshide does seem to have their own version of the dainite soles.

I believe, in this case, that Itshide came up with this design. They issued Commando soles to the British army during WW II https://www.itshide.com/heritage

https://www.itshide.com/history
their site is pretty crap, and it is hard to dig anything