FL gets mention on BBC Radio 4

[Caledonia]

Hi guys

Haven't been around for a while but couldn't not tell you about an FL mention on BBC Radio 4. Not sure where to put it (please move as appropriate dearest bartenders).

On the programme Thinking Allowed (19 Nov 08) Prof Gary Cross has a new book out about the maturity of men or somesuch. He discusses growing up, and at some point the topic of Cary Grant and Fedoras comes up. Sadly he refers to the FL as focussing on the Golden Era by wearing hats, and forgetting about how hard it was back in the "classic style" time, ie depression era, war, etc. Of course, we all know that we all know loads about the history of the time, and the FL actively remembers not just the fashion but the social and economic history. Nonetheless, we got on Radio 4! :eusa_clap Want to listen, see below.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/thinkingallowed/thinkingallowed_20081112.shtml

 

[Mr. 'H']

When I clicked the link it plays this message "sorry we can't bring you the program you requested".

Maybe this would be good in the "radio" forum?

 

[Story]

From the Wall Street Journal, 23 Sep 08

Man and Sillyman: How the model of American masculinity became a stoner with an Xbox

http://sigcarlfred.blogspot.com/2008/09/man-and-sillyman-how-model-of-american.html

Mr. Cross's early chapter on the Greatest Generation is perhaps the richest in his thoughtful journey through the male-strom of modern masculinity. Transcending the tired clichés about the era's "Father Knows Best" patriarchal conformity, he finds in the 1950s culture a complicated response toward older ideals of masculine probity and self- denial. Of course, fathers were often distant figures, organization men who marched off to work each day in their fedoras and suits. :fedora:

But the uniform had its purpose; it announced men's mature status and symbolized their resistance to the frivolities of fashion and consumerism. Mr. Cross also finds something to admire in the TV "adult westerns" of the period. "Gunsmoke" and "Wagon Train" go well beyond simple morality tales, he finds on re-viewing them, dramatizing the experienced dilemmas of male responsibility.

 

[H.Johnson]

Great summary!

 

[Undertow]

Sadly he refers to the FL as focussing on the Golden Era by wearing hats, and forgetting about how hard it was back in the "classic style" time, ie depression era, war, etc.

Wow, how unfortunate. Yet another Professor who doesn't research. I've run into my share of those.

Well, cheers on the notice ladies and gents! :eusa_clap

 

[warbird]

Well most of that discussion is on threads that you have to be a member to see.

He probably wasn't aware of it and never registered as a member, so he never saw that part of the FL.

Someone should email him and let him know that he got that part wrong.

 

[MEDIUMMYND]

Here i am after listening to the said show the power of radio.:eusa_clap

 

[WildCelt]

Here i am after listening to the said show the power of radio.:eusa_clap

I guess it's true there's no such thing as bad publicity!

 

[Dr Doran]

Looks like a very nice guy. Why not send him a polite email?

http://history.psu.edu/faculty/crossGary.php

 

[katiemakeup]

How neat!