Finds and Deals - Leather Jacket Edition

[EAC]

50s Sportclad, size M, 513 euros:

https://www.etsy.com/it/listing/940721132/giacca-moto-vintage-horsehide-sportclad

 

[EAC]

50s horsehide Taubers, short size 42, 325$:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2040637804...55-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050

 

[EAC]

40s steerhide aviator, probably a Ralphs Pugh (looks a lot like it, but it's actually not written on the label) size 40, 487$ starting bid:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1254667932...55-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050

 

[Observe]

50s horsehide Taubers, size 42, 325$:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2040637804...55-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050

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Looks good but I feel the sleeve measurements are a touch short compared to the others for a 42. Maybe that's just my long arms talking. Perhaps best fit for a shorter stockier person.

 

[EAC]

Looks good but I feel the sleeve measurements are a touch short compared to the others for a 42. Maybe that's just my long arms talking. Perhaps best fit for a shorter stockier person.

Right, thanks, edited my post.

 

[EAC]

50s unlabeled MC police jacket, probably California Sportswear, wide (25'' ptp, not sure if accurate, though,) and very short (21.5'' back length without collar), 212.78$ starting bid:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/385063187051?hash=item59a78df26b:g:sDIAAOSwX0lin3Ee

 

[Craig from Craigslist]

In a few ways this feels as close as you can get to owning an OG Escape From New York jacket besides Thedi of course.

40s steerhide aviator, probably a Ralphs Pugh (looks a lot like it, but it's actually not written on the label) size 40, 487$ starting bid:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1254667932...55-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050

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[tmitchell59]

I think perhaps the whole "MONARCH MADE THE 30s Hercules" may just be a flawed theory. I don't know where it came from but I feel like the evidence does not support this.

The Monarch connection was made by folks who do know and make jackets, like Dave Sheeley, John Chapman, probably others. I don't know the "evidence" they have. Dave borrowed jackets and measurements when he was building his Monarch line of jackets. There were techniques he was working to duplicate. Most of which I did not understand.

Now the whole licensing the use of the adjustable collar thing is interesting and puzzling. It is odd that they would license their invention to a competitor. Maybe there was some relationship between the companies that we cannot see from the history? Possibly familial?? The invention itself doesn't seem that special to me.

I agree. Does not seem like a lot of money to be made on such a simple idea. Not sure I get the idea of licensing it out to your competition either.

I thought I had written a thread on the Iconic Hercules, but I guess it just thought about it. I am going to do that now and we can continue this discussion in that thread.

 

[tmitchell59]

Yes, California Sportswear Co. I have one, very nice quality jacket.

 

[EAC]

Another Lee Trevor from the UK, size 42, 128.1£, interesting inner pockets:

https://www.ebay.it/itm/38257925595...KICBxD+miFGaSJO27a1ogqNbV/tow0O89YERpMpJ3YA==

 

[Wildhorses]

40s steerhide aviator, probably a Ralphs Pugh (looks a lot like it, but it's actually not written on the label) size 40, 487$ starting bid:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1254667932...55-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050

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That's a Montgomery Ward label ? MW

 

[EAC]

That's a Montgomery Ward label ? MW

I had thought the same, but the other MW labels I have seen are always explicitly mentioning the full name, and I saw a very similar steerhide label on a RP, so I guessed RP.

But your point is good, and you could be right.

@tmitchell59, could this be another link between MW and RP?

 

[EAC]

@Wildhorses, I'm starting to think that your guess is correct. A very similar label:

 

[tmitchell59]

Sweet Cal 44

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1551209289...CJi9omFSVa&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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I really like this jacket. It is a Cal?

 

[Will Zach]

The seller says the Ralphs-Pugh jacket has been relined, prospective bidders should ask if the label is original.

 

[tmitchell59]

@tmitchell59, could this be another link between MW and RP?

The Steerhide label is a Ralphs-Pugh label without their name.

Here are the similar labels

I'm thinking this jacket is owned by a member here. Dena found both labels in the same jacket when redoing the lining.

I was originally skeptical, but not now. I've suspected this relationship based on the labels and styles of the jackets.. I will do more in a new thread.

 

[EAC]

The Steerhide label is a Ralphs-Pugh label without their name.

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I'm thinking this jacket is owned by a member here. Dena found both labels in the same jacket when redoing the lining.

I was originally skeptical, but not now. I've suspected this relationship based on the labels and styles of the jackets.. I will do more in a new thread.

Sold by MW, but made by RP?

 

[tmitchell59]

Sold by MW, but made by RP?

Yes.

 

[JMax]

I really like this jacket. It is a Cal?

Cal 6-panel CR with the dress collar. Really nice. I’m pondering it, and I just sold a Cal CR. Lol.

 

[Jiaward]

Cal 6-panel CR with the dress collar. Really nice. I’m pondering it, and I just sold a Cal CR. Lol.

Do it.