"Doc" Devereux
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I really enjoyed Dark Blue World.
DOUGLAS said:Without a doubt the best on all counts is a Soviet Film called COME and SEE.
It is the most brutal ,graphic, realistic depiction of WWII as seen by the Soviets. It will make you ill.
DAS BOOT is not bad nor WHEN TRUMPETS FADE.
Merrill,the next time you're in the Detroit area check out the Redford theatreMerrill Wayne B said:My three are the common Twelve O'clock High, Best Years of Our Lives and especially The Battle of San Pietro. I particularly like the bomber graveyard scene in Twelve O'clock, and the narrator dialogue in San Pietro. I thought all of these were very well done. I haven't been to a movie since the early eighties except Gone With the Wind at the then newly restored Detroit Fox. I spent most of the time gagaing the Fox. I haven't recovered from that experience yet.
Spitfire said:What really bothers me regarding SPR is the story.
The impact of the first 25 minutes and the beachlanding is fantastic.:eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap The best ever done in that area!
But from then on it goes downhill, because the whole plot is not believeable.
I know of a Nieland (I believe they were called) family who lost sons during the war while one of them was a paratrooper somewhere in Normandy. But nobody was ever sent out on a dangerous mission to find him. He just turned up some days after d-day and was sent home, as a result of a plea from his field priest.
So when one of the soldiers in SPR (is it the guy "Reiben" from Brooklyn?) asks why 1 soldiers life is more valuable than 8, he actually kills the film right there.
Because private Ryan could not be more important than 8 men. To his family, yes. But in the big picture, NO.
Then the whole thing becomes Hollywood!!!
MikeBravo said:The propoganda value of rescuing one man in those circumstances (all his brothers being killed, even though one survived as a prisoner of the Japanese and commited suicide some years later) was worth much more to the war effort.
There was an incident earlier in the war where four brothers went to the bottom on the same ship, the Sullivans I believe was their name. there was so much flak over that the value of saving Ryan was very high
MikeBravo said:If you get the chance, see the German made movie Stalingrad
It is made from the German perspective but is no white-wash.
moustache said:I wish the same.But in todays fast paced and media driven society,even documentaries are in short supply.Books are not read in school anymore.I remember in school (late 70's) we very rarely had a movie in class.And then it was short educational clips.Now they show complete movies as fact!!!
That is scary. And just because it wins Academy Awards doesn't mean it is correct and true.But,same goes with books too i suppose.
The right teacher is needed.Thanks goodness there are some wonderful examples still around!
JD