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ELC US Navy wool sweater

Stand By

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So a few weeks ago, I was back in England for one week to visit family – and, as well as using it an opportunity to get my ELC RW B-6 repaired and having it sent to my parents to collect it from there, I also took a chance and ordered one of their USN wool sweaters.
Disposable income is rather tight for me these days, what with the usual bills, groceries, pet food etc. all going up, but still, as much I find that buying a new jacket to be just beyond my means (and justification – as I have a nice collection for myself already), I still consider it a good and worthy investment to buy a fine quality sweater which will provide many, many years of service to go as a good layer beneath the leather jackets I do have (namely an ELC RW B-6 and B-3, ELC 1942 pattern Irvin and Luftwaffe plus the Aero ANJ-3 and the vintage N-3 from the 1950's).
Canadian Winters are reliably cold and very long and I like to have a variety of sweaters as they are all in daily rotation for months on end. Where my sweaters are concerned, I don’t like to have two-of-a-kind in terms of colour or style (that’d be unnecessary) and I’ve wanted a blue Submariner from North Sea Clothing for many years now, but each time I look at their website at this time of year, their prices have always given me pause and they increase each year and I feel they’re rather cost-prohibitive to me now – and reviews say they’re on the itchy-side of things too, which doesn’t help me pull the trigger. Plus I already have my Aero RAF sweater and it’s both a classic and a total winner– so I just couldn’t talk myself into another roll-neck for this Winter. But still, I wanted something quality and new - and in blue – but with a different collar from anything I have in my collection.
I looked all over the web for a sweater that would go with all my jackets – so it needed to have a vague military look so that it would to go with my jackets – but I didn’t want something that shouted MILITARY to over-do my look, so to speak – and I’d looked at the ELC website before for this sweater, but they’d never had my size in stock before.
But this time (last July. It pays to think ahead, it seems!) they did have a full range of sizes!
I gave Gary a ping and, as I’ve ordered many jackets from him over the last 12 years or so, and he has seen me enough times at RAF Duxford to know my size, he recommended a size 40.
And lo, the sweater was there at my parents when I got there and, in terms of quality and fit, I knew it was a bulls-eye from the instant I opened the old-style heavy-gauge paper package!
Made of worsted wool, it’s beautifully made and is a nice medium weight and is just a little scratchy on the skin – but not unduly so. I expect that, like my similar “mechanic” style sweaters in this type of knit, it will settle down with a good hand-wash in quality wool detergent and a good fabric conditioner (and drying flat over a couple of days). When Winter gets going, I expect to wear it over one of my long-sleeved River Driver shirts by L.L. Bean, so there won’t be any itch factor.
And I love the tight waistband – as it’ll prevent any upward draughts in winter! The B-3 has a “boxy” cut on the body so it tends to be a little open, so that can happen with the wrong sweater.
The reproduction label is a very nice touch and is all-quality and the stitching is perfect.
The fit is great – neat with no slop. Although I wear a variety of jackets from my ELC Irvin in a size 40, through my Luftwaffe, RW B-3 and B-6 in 42 and to my Aero ANJ-3 which is labelled as a 44, I do wear a 40R suit and Gary’s suggestion of a 40 was spot-on (Thanks Gary!).

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Gav

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Nice! Saw these today at the shop. They were proving to be very popular.
 

Stand By

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Nice! Saw these today at the shop. They were proving to be very popular.

Thanks Gav!
And I forgot to mention that I also got this at the new post-Brexit exchange rate, so the British Pound/Canadian dollar was in much my favour this time too! :)
 

bn1966

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By the way Stand By, it's thanks to you & your old ANJ-3 posts that I'm short of cash having purchased one post-Brexit from Steve S.
 

Tommy-VF51

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That looks GREAT Stand By. Have never been sure about their necks, but I think your post sold me on one? Are you usually a 40 in Jackets?

Wish I could make it up to the ELC Pop-up but working or helping to organise a Strike for some of my Brothers and Sisters on the Railways. American Classics sells them, but charges a mark up on them.
 

Deacon211

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Great looking sweater! I like the shorter turtleneck designs. They feel less like someone is strangling me!


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Stand By

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That looks GREAT Stand By. Have never been sure about their necks, but I think your post sold me on one? Are you usually a 40 in Jackets?

Wish I could make it up to the ELC Pop-up but working or helping to organise a Strike for some of my Brothers and Sisters on the Railways. American Classics sells them, but charges a mark up on them.

Thanks Tommy! And yes, I'm a 40R in a suit - and my Buzz Ricksons L2-A is a 40 as is my ELC Irvin.
But my ELC RW B-3 and RW B-6 are both 42, as is my ELC Luftwaffe.
And my Aero ANJ-3 is labelled as a 44.
But I think the suit is the best rule-of-thumb for actual standard size.

And I know what you mean about getting to the Pop-up shop (that I saw in an email). It's like going to RAF Duxford to see the ELC tent - and I've even had the misfortune of being literally trapped in there for almost an hour - on my own - due to lashing wind and rains. Terrible! ;-) . The credit card ...it burns! It burns!!
 
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EmergencyIan

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Looks outstanding! Very nice.

The only thing that I would add is that the US Navy continued to issue these long after the war (and may still). The latter made sweaters are exactly the same as WWII issue and are 100% wool, as well and made in USA. So, if you're on a budget, look for a NOS one on eBay. You'll pay much less and still get a high quality, well fitting sweater.

- Ian
 
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Stand By

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I have the same sweater in size 40. Picked up a few months ago from HPA. Hasn't been cold enough to wear it yet, but it will be soon.

Oh, it will be. It's unseasonably mild right now up here - most unusual. But the temps seem set to crash on Sunday and they're talking about snow flurries for early next week. Yayyy!
 

Stand By

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By the way Stand By, it's thanks to you & your old ANJ-3 posts that I'm short of cash having purchased one post-Brexit from Steve S.

Ah, something or someone's always to blame, I say, BN.
Gary sent me a free copy of his Golden Book way back when I was wanting to replace and upgrade my old Aviation Leathercraft A2 after 18 years of service. 5000 quid later with ELC, here I sit ....!
And I saw Pearl Harbor and ELC had just made their 1940 Patt. for it back then and I wanted to upgrade my old Aviation Leathercraft Irvin too. So that movie did that for my wallet. Then he brought out the 1942 patt. and I liked that type much, much more - so I traded in the former for the latter. (air mail and taxes and duties and all the extra for the balance ...). Thank you Pearl Harbor.
Then I saw The War Lover as someone here recommended it. What a brilliant film ... and my ELC RW B-3 came as the expensive result of that one viewing. And the B-2 caps. And A-10 gloves. And a B-6. And a C-3. ...
Then I saw people here ooh-ing and ahh-ing about The Hunters (1958) and the "nylon porn" that it was. I shouldn't have ordered it in. I knew full well it could be dangerous. That resulted in a Buzz Rickson L2 from HPA. And then an L2-A. And the Buzz gloves ... ker-ching!
On and on it goes... and apparently it goes around!
And I wouldn't change a thing!!! I'm happy to say that I've never felt happier about my gear and what I wear. It all just seems to fit me body and soul and feels oddly comforting in this increasingly strange 21st century.
 
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