Edumication

[Nathan Flowers]

Little bump for this poll. Just curious about our current membership.

 

[zetwal]

And in the general population -

 

[David Conwill]

I clicked “masters” even though J.D. stands for “juris doctor”. To me a J.D. is better equated to a master’s degree, as the level of attainability is similar, and the time in school roughly equivalent. That and we’re ethically not supposed to call ourselves “doctor”.

Further, there’s an academic doctorate of law equivalent to a Ph.D., though I’ve never seen one in real life.

Interestingly, for all the hoopla about getting more affordable legal representation, the United States did away with the bachelor of law degree years ago, which has done nothing but force the cost of legal representation up, as we’ve all got pricey, non-dischargeable debt to pay off.

Now I’m going off on my “educational inflation” rant, though, and I’ll stop short of telling you just what a racket I think education has become since WWII.

-Dave

 

[Dave E]

Bachelors in Philosophy, Politics and Economics, Masters in Philosophy.

 

[MisterCairo]

Bachelor of Arts and Bachelor of Laws (LLB) but Canadian law schools are changing, to my horror, to JD. Apparently it appears more 'graduate' and 'international'.

 

[Kid Mac]

Ph.D.

 

[jlee562]

B.A. in Cinema (Film Production) and International Relations (Intelligence and Security).

Going back to Grad School this fall to get my M.A. in International Relations.

 

[Puzzicato]

B.Ed, and was 2/3 way to a Masters in Journalism when I ran out of money and drive.

 

[dr greg]

2+2=

Am I just graphically challenged, or does that graph NOT ADD UP?
Are you supposed to read it from top to bottom?

 

[Mav]

Bachelor's in Econ.
Did a year of grad school, decided I didn't want to go through the required lobotomy for a MBA, and quit. I've been thinking about working on either a Master's in theology or going to seminary one of these days, if I ever get around to it and have the time/ money.

 

[David Conwill]

Bachelor of Arts and Bachelor of Laws (LLB) but Canadian law schools are changing, to my horror, to JD. Apparently it appears more 'graduate' and 'international'.

And also perhaps easier to get a U.S. law license?

-Dave

 

[Tango Yankee]

Associates in Information Technology
Bachelor of Science Information Systems Management

Certifications obtained after my degrees: A+, Network+, Microsoft Certified Professional, Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator (the first three certifications are required on your way to a MCSA.)

25 years in Air Force IT starting with mainframe computers. And with all of that the only IT work I can get around here is as a field tech.

Started on a Masters Information Technology four weeks ago.

Not sure why I'm bothering with it as where I currently live, the higher your education the harder it is to find work. But between the Post 9/11 GI Bill and the VA's Yellow Ribbon program it's being paid for so I'd be a fool to pass up the opportunity. Of course, there goes most of my spare time for the next two years! lol

Cheers,
Tom

 

[Brad Bowers]

Am I just graphically challenged, or does that graph NOT ADD UP?
Are you supposed to read it from top to bottom?

It's not supposed to add up, as people from the top down are (generally) included in all categories. Thus, someone with a Master's degree will also be included in the Bachelor's degree percentages, as well as the High School diploma percentages.

I'm assuming these are percentages for the U.S.

Brad

 

[davestlouis]

Good Jesuit education, wound up with a BS in Business Administration with an Economics major...chose economics because so few people chose that major, I thought it would make me stand out...there were 6 of us with that major at St. Louis University that year. It made me stand out alright, had a hell of a time getting my first job, while the accounting majors were all getting solid offers...

 

[zetwal]

I agree that the graph is poorly designed. Just read it section by section rather than cumulatively. In other words,

84.6% graduated High School only
8.9% have Master's (and HS and a Bachelor's)
3% have Doctorates or similar (and HS and a Master's)

And so on ...

And yes, it should be for the US.

 

[GallatinHatMan]

J.D.

Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence.
Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb.
Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts.
Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent.
The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.

Calvin Coolidge, President of the United States 1924-1929

 

[zetwal]

Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence.
Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb.
Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts.
Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent.
The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.

Calvin Coolidge, President of the United States 1924-1929

I agree for the most part but also think it's overstated. "Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent" is a fallacy. Don't you agree?

 

[Doggy Darb]

I agree that persistence and determination are the driving factors (by nature of their definitions) in all endeavors. Education can only be attained through the above, and it will only assist one in achieving more easily. It is the sharing of the discoveries and achievements of those that are persistent and determined that give us all our educations.

 

[Silver Dollar]

I have a BA in chemistry, a D.D.S. and a specialty in prosthodontics.

To me, there are three keys to success. Persistence or perseverance is one and determination or desire is the second. We already stated that. The third factor is time. If you give yourself enough time to accomplish what you set out to do and you don't try to rush it, your success will be much easier to find and you'll be great at what you do. Different people require different amounts of time but the ones who require less time are said to have talent. IMHO, talent is nothing more than a very strong desire, very strong determination and the time you're willing to expend to become expert at what you do. A good attitude with a strong desire to be the best doesn't hurt either. With all of these together, anyone can be great at anything regardless of how much talent they think you have.

 

[Harp]

Good Jesuit education, wound up with a BS in Business Administration with an Economics major... had a hell of a time getting my first job, while the accounting majors were all getting solid offers...

diu vixi pane duro...
Poet-philosopher who ditched macro and Jebbies.